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[–] corroded@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The article didn't specify how old the affected models are, but any time you use an all-in-one device with proprietary software, you take the risk of this happening.

To some extent, you can't really blame the manufacturers for this, either. They can't reasonably continue maintaining software for their products for an indefinite period of time. As an extreme example, I wouldn't expect the old Linksys wifi router I used in 2004 to still be receiving firmware updates.

My NAS hardware is relatively ancient, but it's regular server hardware running TrueNAS. If TrueNAS suddenly stops getting updates, there's UnRaid, or just Linux. It really goes to show the advantage of using generic hardware with open software.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

you can't really blame the manufacturers for this, either. They can't reasonably continue maintaining software for their products for an indefinite period of time.

Shh, anytime I say this about Windows I get people coming out of the woodwork that say Windows 7 should be supported 15 years later.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Don't you know that it's entirely unreasonable to expect your users to have hardware that's a standard feature on any machine made in the last ten years, that can be added to existing systems for around $30 and a free card slot? /s

I don't think I'll ever understand the insistence that a TPM module is a bridge too far.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

My PC has a tpm, the CPU is simply on the unsupported list.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because of the sheer amount of e-waste it will generate by force-decommissioning hardware in active usage. Don't know why that's so hard to understand.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The only reason that's any different than any other time Microsoft has released a new OS is that more people own computers now than ever before, improvements in hardware power have slowed significantly, and people are more outspoken online now.

It's still not reasonable to expect them to support all hardware forever on an aging codebase.

I understand the frustration, but this isn't some new thing for this new OS in particular.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

You're extrapolating to "forever". I just want to reduce e-waste by not forcing people to get new computers they don't want or need yet. Every year of additional service life, more people upgrade hardware for other reasons.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

I expect security patches for the tires on my Model T. Ford is still around, so what's the ploblem?

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You're right in saying that these devices are basically ancient, and also right about why you should never use all-in-ones for anything that you would want to last more than a couple of years.

http://support.dlink.com.au/download/download.aspx?product=DNS-320 The age of the devices:

Firmware: 1.00
Hardware: A1
Date: 2010/9/7
First DNS-320 firmware release

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

For those kind of devices, the manufacturer should be required to make it possible to easily load a third-party firmware when they declare a device as obsolete.

I understand it's not financially viable to support a device beyond a certain threshold, but there's likely a community behind those that are willing to keep these devices alive for a while longer, with the benefit of reducing the amount of ewaste.