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[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Or just realise most of the world doesn't give a shit about American history any more than Americans care about the treaty of Waitangi.

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

actually i love learning about the treaty of waitangi and its fucked up translations and the long-term consequences of it

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Colour me surprised - most kiwis don't even like looking at it.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

People outside of NZ find it interesting.

People in NZ find it either depressing or infuriating.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago

To be fair, i mostly think about it in the context of the Maori Renaissance and try to think about how those lessons could benefit American subgroups

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

American history is more consequential though. Similarly, even though I don't care much about Russian history, it was Russian history that led Putin to conclude that he had a right to control Ukraine, which has led to the first land war in Europe in decades.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

More consequential in the immediate case, though we probably all hope for a future where America's history is not worldwide-relevant

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Fuck yes. A future where America could sneeze without the world catching a cold would be a good one. Probably even for Americans. But, as it stands, often US politics is more relevant to people's lives than their own local politics, because they're own local politics are predictable and steady, while in the US it's unpredictable chaos.