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In Ukraine, Killings of Surrendering Russians Divide an American-Led Unit (www.nytimes.com)

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[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The war is a classic example of fascist infighting

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Fascists are nationalists. Fascists from different nations fighting each other isn't really infighting, that's just like, regular fighting.

Not something we should be fueling at any rate. Heaven forbid anyone asks about a peace plan that isn't total victory, though.

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah it's tough to find a compromise when Russia seems to go for the total victory or at least a settlement of gains and Ukraine hopes for a stalemate without border changes.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine hopes for total retreat from all claimed Ukrainian territory, not a mere stalemate. That's hardly compromise.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's right and as long as US and western allies keep up with deliveries there is a chance for Ukraine to achieve its objectives.

Ideally leading to Russian collapse.

Before you get bent out of shape about it is in possible...

Recent history does demonstrate that invading country that faces a determined opposition will generally have to go home with their dicks tucked.

How long can Russia spin this shot at home esp as Ukraine is striking critical assets deep within Russia.

And the west hasn't even given Ukraine the best shit and permission to use it as needed.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Ideally leading to Russian collapse.

Cool so you want a nuclear war.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay Brzezinski. Russia hardly faces a determined opposition: it faces a dwindling supply of forced conscripts.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well you got nothing to worry about then. Kyiv by winter?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think they even want Kyiv. Western Ukraine is rife of neo-Nazis, making it impossible to occupy long-term.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I thought they were liberating rather than occupying?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

The difference, geographically, between “liberating” and “occupying” can be found in the the decade-long civil war after the US-backed 2014 coup and the Minsk Accords. Kit Klarenberg: Civil War in Donbass 10 Years On

[–] sunzu@kbin.run -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Somebody is coping here haha