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[–] daltotron@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The most I've seen anyone able to manifest is that she wasn't an old white man, and instead, she was too radical, because she was black, indian, and a woman. I have seen milquetoast liberals saying this, black people saying this, indians saying this, and women saying this. I don't really know how true it is, and I guess I never will know because she really didn't run a good enough campaign for me to actually run any sort of postmortem analysis relative to someone else's real turnout, because she wasn't even a baseline democrat, she ran below the baseline in terms of promises. She campaigned with dick "killed a million people" cheney and his wife. I dunno. somehow I don't believe that it's because democrat voters are just super racist or sexist or whatever.

[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In hindsight, I think the big issue with her campaign was simply how little time they had. We should have done an actual fucking primary, or Biden should have bowed out sooner, or at bare minimum she should have simply been as inescapably in the headlines as humanly possible because apparently there's a contingent of dense enough motherfuckers out there that people were searching who was running on election day.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I dunno, I think it was mostly that they wanted joe to step down later on in order to justify not having a primary, and dispelling a populist candidate, like tim walz may have been, a populist candidate which goes against the interests of the donors, and could've still probably gone through with a ton of funding and a groundswell of support regardless (see: kamala getting 1 billion dollars), from the running. Then, they can run kamala by default, and it doesn't matter whether or not she really wins or loses, as she's still campaigning on basically the platform that the republicans of 2016 were running on. I dunno so much if the time was the problem, other countries have full elections in as much time, I think the real problem was the electoral calculus that runs everything the scenes, as it has always been, and I think a lot of people got their brain cooked by brat summer and coconut memes into believing this was somehow going to be any better than 2016.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Democrats deciding there is no point marketing themselves towards most of the country and only to specific counties in states they think they have done the math on for exactly the policies needed to get their votes is a strategy that needs to stop.

Thinking it's smart that they have "gamed" the election while still rolling in more donations than ever before is ridiculous.

Time is not the problem but message absolutely is.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

contingent of dense enough motherfuckers

I believe you could have shortened this to "America".

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 2 weeks ago

No one has ever gone bankrupt overestimating the racism and sexism of the American people.

Too many factors to say that was the cause, but we can't rule it out. Remember that Ruby Bridges is 8 years younger than Trump. We are so close to the time when the majority of Americans were openly, proudly, racist, the idea that a significant number of Americans are quietly racist is not far fetched in the least.