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Hey Gaza / Free Palestine guys,

I'm pissed about the Kamala loss but that's not important right now. I need to know what media you were using.

Where did Free Palestine/ Gaza memes and discussions start?

I'm worried that the discussion is a right wing disinformation campaign designed to make us tear each other apart. I cannot find any legitimate politician (even far left ones like Bernie Sanders, AOC, etc. etc) that would have pushed the message of 'Joe Biden / Kamala is just as bad as Trump on the issue of Gaza'.

The only ones who would push that message are right wing trolls who try to separate us. So now I want to track down and confirm my suspicions. Who meme'd this? Where did you hear it? Was it Twitter? TikTok? Reddit? Facebook? Instagram?

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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Israel-adjacent conspiracy theories are quite common. They usually come from the far right, but the far left also participated this time around. The "Biden and Harris explicitly endorse the extermination of 2+ Million Palestinians" narrative is just another one. Like any good conspiracy theory, there are lots of half-truths that help prop it up, but given what was actually at stake in this election it doesn't serve to actually help solve anything. The only actual effect this conspiracy had was to "punish Democrats" for running a bad campaign, which has absolutely jack shit to do with preventing genocide in Palestine, especially since we know that Trump, the only other viable candidate, is demonstrably on Israel's side.

If you want to look anywhere, look at the users on far-left fringe websites that engage in deliberate misinformation campaigns, and the small time politicians and activists like Kshama Sawant that actively campaigned against Harris with the explicit goal of punishing Democrats with a Trump win.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

If you want to look anywhere, look at the users on far-left fringe websites that engage in deliberate misinformation campaigns

It's not the fringe websites I'm concerned about. I'm talking about the big payouts: Twitter, Gamma ebook, TikTok and Instagram.

Fringe websites are where they test ideas and arguments. When they honed the correct message they likely migrate to spreading that the arguments of division to the mainstream sites. Possibly (in the case of Twitter and TikTok) with algorithmic boosts to the arguments.