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[โ€“] Kaput@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is now a good time to think about a third party? Actual left one. Not 1995 Republicans left.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Absolutely. It always has been, to be clear, but it is always a good time to start. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it, the point is that organizing is the best thing any leftist can do.

To be clear, electoralism cannot and will not save us, Revolution is necessary. Luxemburg's Reform or Revolution and Lenin's The State and Revolution have remained correct to this day, and are only further proven correct with the passage of time and the accumulation of confirming evidence.

A good primer is Blackshirts and Reds.

[โ€“] Kaput@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I meant even just a bit left of center, just something sane not totally sold to corporate.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why? The Greens haven't seen widespread success, to me it seems like we need to look more critically at the failures of electoralism.

[โ€“] Kaput@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Disclosure, an not American. I don't know much about the greens , I got distributed to get a few weeks ago just for mentioning that whether Stein was legit or not, some of her supporters made good points. USA seems to be locked into a mindset that everything is black or white. If you can't win the presidency is not worth it. Have Sanders quit the Democrats tomorrow, and recruit a few star player to go with. That would be a real kick in the ass for the Establishment to care about peopl. Think Tea party for the left.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's a bit of a misanalysis of the electoral situation. The Greens are that party, and failed to get a dent. PSL is a revolutionary party, but they are still picking up steam. Electoralism will not destabilize the Democrat/Republican duopoly.

[โ€“] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 weeks ago

It's time to push for ranked choice voting, which will in turn enable third parties.