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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

well, sure, but with Trump going back to the big chair, and working against European interests in favor of Russian and Saudi ones, Europe is in a very bad spot, and is going to have to start making deal with Putin. no one wants to hear this, and I'm sorry for what is about to happen to Ukraine.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And i guess Taiwan will join the mainland soon without the US help china wont wait long

[–] Questy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They don't have to make deals with Putin, he can't handle the EU, and America will only help him economically. The EU is the last democratic super block, they need to stand up for those of us that still want democracy to survive. I'm Canadian, we're fucked. Japan just signed a comprehensive security pact with the EU. Obviously they have fascist leaders inside the house as well, but really, NATO is dead, we need them to step up. Here's hoping, with little conviction.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm Canadian too and yes we are

[–] Docus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Europe is big enough to manage without the us. If we start working together. Starting with building up a defence industry quickly. That won’t be pretty for the US MIC, but that’s Trump’s problem.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ok. show me. see you in two years. good luck wit ze germans.

[–] Docus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I’m not saying it will happen. Just that it can be done with enough cooperation. And given the scale of the threat, it may happen