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I was gonna title this "And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice" and then write "Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again" here, but I'm not sure if that comes off like gloating and that's honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They don't need to lie, they just need to get better at being direct and stip pulling punches or taking the high road to avoid offending moderates or whatever their stupid logic is.

Instead of cozying up to Cheney, just call Trump a felon constantly, remind people about how he put migrants in cages and is now using durect nazi rhetoric against them. Those aren't lies, and they jind of half assed brought them up, but they need to actually lean in hard and constantly.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

They did call him a felon constantly! They plastered everything he says in every outlet, screamed his threats at the top of their lungs.

No one cares!

That doesn't get you in people's facebook, tiktok, and youtube feeds.

Dems need a candidate who's already famous. They need one totally unchained, unhinged, who would say awful but barely not illegal things in public, so they're plastered on every news outlet constantly. They need someone who's a little iffy about vaccines, who will print money and send people fat checks with their face stamped on it, who will straight up collude with the powerful in public, so calling it out does nothing.

They need a liberal Trump.

I'm not sure who it would be... maybe a big pop star that kinda loses their marbles? Think Taylor Swift. But the dems are not going to win a Trumpist election running someone like Bidden, Harris, Bernie, AoC or whatever.

[–] turddle@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Don’t think it has to explicitly be a shitty person but the Left definitely needs to realize it’s a popularity contest. Charisma and moxie win it cuz voters want it simple.

Look how FDR swept Hoover. Went around promising Happy Days are Here Again and he’ll whip the government into fixing the individual’s problems. Blasted his aura on the radio and newsreels which kept voters’ eyes on him. Then kept them for 3 more terms by saying fuck the red tape and making tangible things happen (which is probably what drives people to Trump despite the different results)

People want to back the cool guy who tells em it’ll be alright. Simple as

[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

But I don't know who that is, lol. Not until now.

[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

Dems need a candidate who's already famous. They need one totally unchained, unhinged, who would say awful but barely not illegal things in public, so they're plastered on every news outlet constantly.

They need a liberal Trump.

What chuds like about Trump is that he jokes around and appears to be passionate about what he talks about, and instead of backing down when challenged, will face it head on and double down. Someone who will spit in the face of his enemies without apologizing after. Get anyone who can riff and mock their enemies while standing firm on their positions.

They need someone who's a little iffy about vaccines, who will print money and send people fat checks with their face stamped on it, who will straight up collude with the powerful in public, so calling it out does nothing.

I dont think they actually like any of this, just the way he does it inspires confidence. They care very little about the actual policy specifics.

That's all they really want is confidence. They aren't confident in their place within a changing world and want someone who exudes that confidence so they can delegate their trust to someone who has it where they have none.

I only said Hasan because he's funny, comfortable being an asshole, confident, and isn't a pushover.