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[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is definitively the president that the country has chosen. What's there to not let happen?

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 56 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Well, Biden could legally have him killed by seal team six.
I'm not advocating for anything, just pointing out what trumps lawyer successfully argued.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the problem--it wouldn't matter. Trump isn't the problem, the problem is a huge percentage of the country who wants to elect him. If it's not him, it'll be someone just as bad. Hell, I wouldn't put it past people to vote Putin himself in.

[–] Xabis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The problem is there are only two candidates to choose from.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's one of the problems, for sure. First-past-the-post is a terrible voting system, and the electoral college is a mess. Unfortunately, I can't blame those problems for the outcome of this election. Trump won decidedly--the larger percentage of American people want him, as unfortunate as that is.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if someone wins an election by a lot, the nature of voter turnout in the US means they at best represent like a third of the people. The fascists don’t outnumber us in reality, just in a political system that will allow them into power before even a social democrat.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fascists don’t outnumber us in reality

Doesn't look like that from where I'm standing.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you completely ignore how the electoral system works, sure. Back in reality, we have elections which, largely due to voter disenfranchisement efforts, only at best only account for ~60% of the country, only about half of which go to the fascists. So less than a 1/3rd of the country, and even that comes with the caveat that their other option sucks too.

They only get power because the system is set up to favor them and the state needs to use violence to enforce the will of that minority on everyone else. We have the numbers to change things for the better, we just lack the organization to make that happen because of a century of efforts to violently repress those organizations and socially isolate people.

So you can keep being a misanthrope by pretending most of the people aren't worth saving or you can recognize your fellow humans and work with them to do something about it.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This argument was persuasive when Trump lost the popular vote and still became president due to the election system being ridiculous, but not now that's he's got far more support than Harris. It's time you faced that most of the USA is actually fine with Trump's fascism.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

By “popular vote,” you mean the % of people who voted. I’m talking about the country overall. Which includes people who didn’t get off work, have a handful of understaffed polling places, no good public transportation to get them to polling places, imprisoned people, people screwed my voter registration laws, etc. and that’s not even counting people too young to vote.

Your view only makes sense if you ignore literally everything about the broken US electoral system and all the other systems that touch it.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All these people made to to vote four years ago. Don't tell me situation got so much worse under Biden. You're just looking for excuses.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh so the turnout last time was 100%? I guess someone should go fix the data then.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

please not seals, pick any other sof unit

seals will get book deal before even they're done

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

How do you make a navy SEAL cry?

Tell him his book isn't selling.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Well considering the seal that killed bin Laden is a loud Trump supporter, their probably just turn around and kill Biden

[–] cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like he should attempt to order that to see if anyone is willing to carry it out, for no other reason than to see if they're willing to do the same when Trump orders it.