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Understanding the electoral map (lemmy.world)
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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 80 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-10-02-0065

I paste this everywhere because the narrative of lies has been ubiquitous:

There was one difficulty however of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of the Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to fewest objections.

This was James Madison, ie the guy who came up with it. It exists to launder slave votes through their owners, nothing more. It's not about land, it's just about the south using the votes of people they don't let vote.

[–] x0chi@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Yes indeed.

All votes should count as one. Just the idea that the votes of some people values more than others is undemocratic by principle. It's not the winner of the state that should decide as one state may have more people than others. What is democratic and must be placed is the TOTAL of votes is what must count.

We can count can't you?so why do any other way? The only reason one may want otherwise is because he or she thinks he or she may have something to gain with this crooked system

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I never really understood the Rick and Morty joke until your comment: https://youtu.be/-ck-NLG_vIA.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It worked out better till England ended the slave trade, the South could just buy more votes whenever there was a concern.

After that they started going crazy and doing weird shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_(U.S._Constitution) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walker_(filibuster) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostend_Manifesto