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[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh cool, Minecraft LSD: Dream Emulator edition

which would be a cool concept, if the generative AI model weren’t incredibly prohibitively expensive to run, trained on plagiarized videos, and incapable of coherently tracking state (believe it or not, LSD: Dream Emulator does have a gameplay and progression loop… game-like things without one tend to get dull very quick)

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

game-like things without one tend to get dull very quick

This has been a thing with games leaning heavily on procedural generated content as well. Takes a lot of effort to make those more interesting in the longer term. The ai is the future of gaming people are sure to rediscover this fact again. Sadly compared ro pgc people they will waste a lot more energy and money.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I think it's fine to have little art games that are only interesting to play for a few minutes. They can still have an impact that stays with you forever. Catacombs of Solaris for instance is one I love and think about all the time.

These AI guys though, god it must be so sad working on this stuff. They can't be proud of what they're making if the goal is to trick people into thinking you can have a real Minecraft game in there. The game is not even relevant, as far as I can tell they're only using it to draw attention to their stupid and doomed ASIC business.

[–] ebu@awful.systems 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

goddammit! you have no idea how many variations of "first person walking simulator projected image texture trippy visuals" i slapped into every search engine!

but yes, that was the one i was thinking of

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Ah awesome! I didn't think it was because you can't upload pictures, but maybe you can in the "Revisited" version!

[–] ebu@awful.systems 5 points 9 hours ago

i went and bought it, and yup, the revisited version is the one i was thinking of. time to walk around inside a picture of Sam Altman so i can absorb his raw intellect and business acumen

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Pgc can be a useful tool in the toolbox however. Just look at dwarf fortress for example. But games need more than just that. And with LLMs there could also ve some use (generation of voices I think for example, or some low level of conversational chatter). The problem is the data usage, the anti worker stuff (no voice actor wants their voice stolen for example), and like in this case, the people just promoting their other crap. Like how crypto games are just a shell to promote their crypto bs.

LLMs could have some minor use but with the backlash due to techbros going their usual vc style techbro ways, and steam requiring disclosure I doubt it will be of much use the risk is too great. Which considering the power costs is great.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 7 points 9 hours ago

We also have stuff like DLSS, which is pretty cool and I imagine ends up being more efficient in energy usage. The key thing I believe is it's built as a specific tool for a specific purpose, instead of general purpose slop machines eating humongous databases to excrete absolutely nothing useful for anyone.