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    [–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 81 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Most people don't even know what a browser is, let alone an os

    [–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

    Yes they do. They know a Mac is different to a PC and they know a phone isn't the same as a desktop. They just don't know what that's called. They still have an intuitive understanding. They still understand that phones do annoying things like denying file system access. They understand that Microsoft products make it harder to save files for no reason. Most people understand the appeal of Linux if you explain it in familiar language. They've just been conditioned by society to fear change.

    [–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    sorry man you are a perfect example of the comic.
    cause most people also dont know what denying system file access even means.

    [–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    Drag is using language you can understand easily, because drag is talking to you. To a normal person, drag would say "You know how on your phone, you can't just look at your files? Like you have a separate app for photos, and documents, and you can't just look at all your files from one app like you can on PC? Well, you can actually if you use an android. Here's the app that does it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.nbu.files&hl=en_AU"

    Drag even casually named an operating system during that speech, and would have been understood perfectly by most people.

    [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Kids today barely know what a file is. I have to regularly explain folders and file types. When I asked them where they saved a thing, they answer "On the computer" and look at me like I'm crazy for asking that.

    [–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    yes, because folders are not something thats really worthwhile in a filesystem. they're a vestige of an earlier time.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Folders, or directories, really, may not be worthwhile, but when you have more than fifteen files, they're quite convenient.

    [–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Userspace concept is my point dont need them in the file system itself

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    In that case you're left with applications implementing it, and hoping for something homogeneous. Which may or may not happen.
    I wouldn't trust it.

    [–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 minutes ago

    sounds like a you problem. if you think longer on it maybe you'll come up with the obvious layer to implement it at that isn't the kernel.

    [–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    folders are a convenient organization strategy

    [–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

    Indeed they are! Just don't need them in the filesystem itself