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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is a theory that sanctions against a country with a tyrannical ruler hurt the common people more than the oligarchs / dictator. But eventually they do make life more difficult for that ruler

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The common people are the ones who overthrow the dictator eventually

[–] RubberDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

So only 3-4 left to go :-)

Jk

But letting the dictator free reign is even worse, look at how many people putin has killed in the unnecessary agression of Ukraine. That's not some slight "suffering", that's death and everything that comes with it for the families left behind.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Anywhere in the modern era basically

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That happens relatively rarely. Remember the protests in recent years in Thailand, Hong Kong, Iran? They went exactly nowhere.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TF you on? Just because there weren’t immediate, drastic regime level changes doesn’t mean they went “exactly nowhere”.

There have been many changes at smaller levels not being reported in mainstream western media. Public pressure called for MANY local officials to step down along with changes in law that have already started effecting everyday life, and at least in Thailand, some pretty major changes in how public officials are held accountable via more expansive auditing channels, thereby increasing transparency.

Not everything is a fucking hollywood movie wherein you have some Hunger Games style uprising against the elite.

In fact, it’s fucking insulting hearing people who haven’t an ounce of global exposure beyond whatever 2 or 3 media sources they shove their heads into saying “those protesters got nothing accomplished”.

Never let anyone tell you protesting doesn’t work.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely nothing happened in Iran. The morality police was given some practice in beating up teenagers and young adults for a couple of months, but the protests went exactly nowhere.

[–] FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

There are more and more confrontations with that police being reported than there were before the massive protests. Just yesterday, a woman was caught stripping in front of the morality police as a sign of protest.

Again, we don't live in a Holywood reality. Grow up. What these people are doing is pretty brave, and Iranians don't need dooming killjoys.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/women-iran-going-hijabs-2nd-anniversary-mahsa-aminis-death-approaches-rcna171123

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world -3 points 21 hours ago

Do you have family in Iran? Cousins? Uncles? Anything?

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It could have worked. It was worth trying

[–] Saleh 1 points 21 hours ago

But not if the pressure is mostly coming from the external. Or worse if we look at Egypt, where now an even worse dictator than Mubarak rules, after the Egyptians have elected people the West didn't like, and getting couped quickly.