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I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I'm an idiot.

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[โ€“] untorquer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really. Israel has a vested interest in continuing this land grab. The hostages are a convenient excuse, but separate from the inciting event. Furthermore it's just as likely the hostages have been killed in israeli bombings.

[โ€“] Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I see. So you think Israel wants the hostages to be kept in order to give them a public excuse to continue their campaign?

[โ€“] untorquer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

No. I said they're a convenient excuse. If they were to return then a new excuse would be found. The impetus for this campaign started as "self defense" in response to the Oct 7 attack. Then when that was no longer sufficient to justify things they moved onto the hostages as a bargaining chip.