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FORMULA 1 LENOVO GRANDE PRÊMIO DE SÃO PAULO 2024


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  • Circuit name: Autódromo José Carlos Pace
  • First Grand Prix: 1973
  • Number of laps: 71
  • Circuit Length: 4.309 km
  • Race Distance: 305.879 km
  • Lap record: 1:10.540 Valtteri Bottas (2018)
  • 2023 winner: Max Verstappen

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[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lando bitching about his luck so much when he had half the race to make progress. Instead he just went backwards.

[–] wes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He lost the lead again and went off a few times and the team topped it off with bad strategy calls (+Lando wanted to come in even earlier) has nothing to do with luck i think.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

+Lando wanted to come in even earlier

Exactly. He was asking to be pit even before the VSC and is now bitching that the team pit him

[–] falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I don't get how you interpret the interview as him bitching about the team call? In the interview, he did acknowledge that he made a few mistakes, but aside from that he thought they did the best they could, and the red flag was the bad luck.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah and in post race interview he said Red Bull’s strategy “was not talent just luck”. Come on dude why so salty.

[–] falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It is though? I am in no way disregarding Max's drive, he was brilliant today, but the interview question was specifically about the VSC and red flag, which is 100% luck. Red Bull and Alpine got a free tyre change while every other team lost time and positions for the pit stop.

Plenty of stuff the FIA should fix after this race. They should change the rules to not allow modifications to the car during a red flag in the future for a start.

Edit: You can hear what the interviewer asked here. I don't think he's commenting on Max's drive, just pit strategy. He also did acknowledge the mistakes he made during the race, so there's that.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The VSC was luck. Pitting neither under the VSC nor under the safety car was a strategic call. Red bull and Alpine both made an educated guess based on the amount rain that there is a high possibility for a red flag. It was lucky but there was plenty of strategy involved. Also all three of them drove brilliantly to put themselves in a position to capitalise. Remember Colapinto binned it on fresh inters while max, ocon and gasly kept it on the track on ~~won't~~ worn inters. Saying it was 100% luck is doing a disservice to all 3 of them and their teams

[–] falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I see your point. I'm absolutely not saying that the drivers and the team did not do a good job, I'm merely saying that the coin flip was lucky. I can see why the teams thought a red flag would be possible if you put it this way. It still is a guess though, and no red flag could still be possible if it weren't for Colapintos crash, under a safety car no less.

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Luck yes. Making most of a lucky break - talent

[–] falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah? The afterwards wasn't the point though.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I mean his team royally fucked him lol I'd be salty too