this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2024
54 points (90.9% liked)
Asklemmy
42608 readers
614 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
Search asklemmy ๐
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- !lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I didnt ignore what you said, its just pointless to write super long responses to all the subjects, it just gets to be a wall of text.
Let me be more direct, what is the horrible outcomes that christianity or judism brings?
Super long wall of text? You're kidding, right? เฒ เฒฟโ _โ เฒ
Look, I even put it in it's own, separate paragraph
So, to avoid any confusion before moving on, you didn't even try to explain your reasoning for the criteria you set out. You didn't offer any good evidence to justify those criteria, and you dodged replying by pretending it's too difficult for you.
This isn't a good look for you or those who share your beliefs.
And you're really asking me to point out terrible things that have come about as a result of religion or been perpetuated through religious belief?
Off the top of my head -
Holy wars.
Witch trials.
Destruction of indigenous cultures.
Widespread misogyny.
Discrimination towards minorities.
So this was exactly the way I thought you would go so I didnt want to invest a lot of time. Those things you mentioned are not related to christianity, it christians doing things. If you actually understand the bible I would say 4/5 go directly against the bible and the last one is questionable.
The main issue is that people apply the things that a person of a belief system does to that belief system. For example they will see a Rep or Dem commit a crime and say that the particular party is responsible, or for in your case christianity is responsible for what its people do.
"But the people are the fruits of what the religion is!" No, they typically are a failing of following the tenants.
Nonsense. We are talking about things people do as a direct result of their beliefs, also known as outcomes. Bait and switching just makes you look even worse.
And accusing nearly all Christians of not doing it right is disingenuous, elitist and pitifully sad.
Perhaps instead of disgracing yourself further, you can tell us what these tenets are that so many go against?
If you dont understand what I am saying then just ask, insulting is just childish.
I didn't insult you, I pointed out your poor behaviour.
And I did ask you, about several different things, the most recent being about the tenets you claim to follow.
Why don't you try again?
No, you are not related to me and I dont care if you try to scold me. I did nothing wrong or shameful and I dont need to explain anything to you. If you get offended by internet conversations then dont have them. If you dont understand what I am saying feel free to ask questions but I am not answering to you.
I'm not offended and I'm not scolding you.
You need to realise that I'm merely highlighting your poor behaviour for others to see.
Why so defensive? If you can't justify your position then just say so, but pretending otherwise is just childish.
You keep gaslighting me and I dont really care. My behavior was normal and you just seem to be over reacting about something. Just like you claiming I am being defensive, I am jsut telling your I am not going to explain myself to you, and I dont care if you are wanting to scold me, you dont have any power over me.
Gaslighting? That suggests I'm inventing things just to make you look bad.
Unsurprisingly, that's not true. Here's you lying and generally being awful -
Not what I said. I'll repeat -
That's about as related to Christianity as you can get, which means you misrepresented what I said. Also known as lying.
Accusing people of doing it wrong is not a good way to make your point. It either discredits your own religion, or it belittles the beliefs of your fellow Christians while elevating your own.
Not a good look.
Again, I did ask. More than once. Here's an example -
So again, accusing me of being childish to cover up that you're lying.
Lovely.
If you're going to behave like a child and pretend you didn't when called out on it, that doesn't mean you didn't or that I'm wrong. But it does make you a liar. Again.
Heh, you're funny.
If anything you said was new or original, I would have asked about that. Not that you would answer me anyway.
But its all tired repetition of the same old guff we've heard a million times.
Oh well.
Yeah sorry, I am not going to read all that wall of text. Have a great day!
Poor thing, running away like they always do.