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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)
  • Dirt has pathogens that are only harmful.

Stopped there. Because that's how your immune system learns.

And the bit with heavy metals is bull. Just don't let them eat a ton of dirt of vineyards (copper).

[–] Reshirams_Rad_Slam@mastodo.neoliber.al 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

@MonkderVierte @MaximilianKohler You should've read the rest of the page then like the first one xdd
Dirt is contaminated by harmful heavy metals and other toxic pollutants
The known beneficial microbes are the host-native ones that are passed down generationally via vaginal birth and breastfeeding. Microbes that you pick up from the environment are not the same and are more likely to be harmful.
Antibiotics are one of the primary things you want to avoid if you're worried about your microbiome

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You're confusing gut Microbiome with immune system? Sure, it plays an important role in immune reactions but it's not the same.

Playing in is not dirt eating, it's dirt tasting. That bit of heavy metals pales in comparison to even one year living.

[–] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago

It's dangerous misinformation, regardless of how you want to phrase it. You do not need to eat dirt or play in dirt.

[–] Reshirams_Rad_Slam@mastodo.neoliber.al 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

@MonkderVierte Another red herring changing goalpost. Where do you think both reside?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Nothing red herring. You know how the immune system learns? By being confronted with bad actors. Too less bad actors, your body becomes the target.

About the gut microbiome: bad bacteria can only take over, if there's a hole in an already established biome or if it's generally weakened. But then that's a huge issue, you're usually in a sterile tent in a hospital, fed intravenously. A baby already has a healthy microbiome.
It's not about the microbiome, it's about the immune system. Think of them as separate entities, even though they are heavily intertwined.

Where do you think both reside?

Gut bacteria: gut

Immune system: gut, veins, mostly bone marrow tho.

[–] Reshirams_Rad_Slam@mastodo.neoliber.al 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@MonkderVierte @MaximilianKohler Eating dirt and practicing poor sanitation increases your odds of contracting an infection and needing antibiotics.

So much commitment for just a hypothesis

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don't infections lead to producing antibodies?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

They might also disfigure, disable, or discontinue you entirely. Like polio.

[–] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago

You may be suffering from heavy metal poisoning.

Stopped there. Because that’s how your immune system learns.

"I chose to stay ignorant and re-state misinformation that you debunked"

And the bit with heavy metals is bull.

It cites the CDC, so you should contact the CDC and tell them to stop spreading "bull".