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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 66 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My home is more of a democracy than a dictatorship. I could of course forbid them from playing, impose whatever sanctions, But they have fun doing it and they have a bunch of real life friends that join them.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

My home is more of a democracy than a dictatorship.

Oh, now you've done it, you've pissed off the tankies.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dude, if I could get them to seize the means of production...

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Damn, as a father, I feel that.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

What is a tanky? Only heard that after switching to Lemmy. What's the origin?

Edit: God damn, definition was far more literal than I imagined!

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

tankie = stalinist/maoist style communist, take control of everything, anyone who resists, run them over with tanks.

lemmy.ml has a bunch, also hexbear and especially lemmygrad.

They seem like angsty tweens who suddenly realized they figured out the solution to everything, and anyone who doesn't listen to them must be dealt with.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Specifically referring to scenarios where tanks were used in conflicts between civilians and the state, such as Tiananmen square or Chechnya and expressing support for the side using tanks.

[–] Vittelius 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's a term that goes back to the cold war. There was a strike and the Soviet Union ended it violently by rolling tanks into the city. This put communists all over the world into a bit of a dilemma: on one side of the conflict was the working class making their opinion known (a communist value) and on the other the Soviet Union (the good guys). So whose side should they take?

It was British communists who coined the term "tankie" for those who defended the SUs actions to brand them as "fake communists" who are more interested in identity politics (the good guys did it, therefore it's OK) than the plight of the working class.

Tankie is a sort of derogatory term for people who whitewash and cover up the horrors of communism.

There was a rebellion in the Soviet Union. The SU responded by rolling tanks into town and violently busting it. This put two sides of communism at odds; On one hand, there was the plight of the working class (the rebellion) and then on the other there were the actions of the people in control (the tanks). Tankies are the “communism has only ever helped people, you’re just listening to capitalist propaganda” folks who decided to side with the tanks, instead of siding with the working class. It’s sort of like calling someone a fake communist, [insert “No True Scotsman fallacy” argument from a tankie below], because a “real” communist would side with the working class.

You see it a lot on Lemmy because many instances have some major communist lean. After all, the “anyone can run their own instance and be in charge. No centralized instances, if you don’t like the mods you can just change instances” concept of the Fediverse jives very well with communist ideals. For instance, the “ml” in lemmy.ml is meant to stand for “Maoist/Leninist”. And that means the entire communist spectrum is on display; From both the more moderate “yeah communism has some cool parts but was also responsible for some major humanitarian crises” to the more extreme “those crises [were caused by individuals, not by the political system]/[never actually happened at all. They’re lies made up by capitalists to deter people from supporting communism!] Communism never actually hurt anyone.”

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Any democracy can be replaced with a dictatorship with well placed CIA intervention.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's not like they have a lot of election choices, I've kind of got a one-party system going on. They can vote for me or they can vote for my wife but they're getting the same thing either way.

The problem is, they're eventually going to determine what kind of nursing home I go to. If Roblox buys me chicken pot pie Thursday I'll considerit a win

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

My man is thinking ahead.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I respect your approach. I bet you're the kind of parent who apologises to their kids when you make mistakes

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

My dad refused to tell me what's he apologizing for when apologizing, so his apologies were kinda insincere and a way to show that he can do shit behind my back and then just "apologize" and pretend it's something good.

He was messing in things not his to deal with in the first place. Thinking he's the smart one there. Naturally it generally wasn't so, and then he never answered any questions I'd ask.

Now he's also dead, so I can't even ask him again.

OK. Back to the subject - parents should be honest and consistent, and also always understand that their kids are different people, and no part of them belongs to the parents. And that no, parents don't know better. When the moment comes that a parent's advice is consciously rejected, they should just take it. When they are not let into something, that means it's not their concern, period.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You have to own that shit it's the only way you can expect them to ever own it.

Within reason, I have to hold myself accountable to the same level I expect them to.

It's all a big balancing act. Getting enough discipline in to make them responsible without using so much the lie to you and hide stuff.

I wasn't raised that way, I want to do better by them.