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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/17869503

I know I'm going against the grain here, I'm obviously no Harris lover, but also I'd prefer to be allowed to continue existing. If that's controversial in leftist spaces then maybe I don't want to spend any more time in leftist spaces.

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[–] altoids0@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's unfortunate that there's a kernel of truth in both! Obviously red guy is bad and if you're thinking in the medium-term of the next five years (the context of the election) then it really is that simple.

I do want to emphasize though that there is a lot that has to be done outside the ballot box. Even if you just want status quo, a Harris government would need to be badgered heavily to actually pass the sort of legislation needed to mitigate the imminent threat of climate change (in addition to most other policy changes you'd want or need).

Climate Man isn't going to swoop down from the sky and save the world. Normal people need to see politics as a proactive, regular part of adulting. If you're planning on voting this year, consider also having the goal of (if able) attending a protest or donating to political organizations you agree with this (or next) year! Lets make government suck less c:

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Obviously, the real fight only starts once the election is over. But right now the order of the day has to be defeating Trump because everything and I mean absolutely everything will get a lot worse if he wins. Harris will only implement progressive policies if there is grassroots pressure for her to do so. Trump will send the military to deal with grassroots pressure.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If by grassroots pressure you mean "massive social upheaval and widespread protest and civil unrest" then yeah.

But she's always going to support the Palestinian genocide. She's said so herself. There's no circumstances where she will stop funding and arming the IDF.

[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Biden administration has given an ultimatum threatening to stop military aid if aid to northern Gaza doesn't increase, with a deadline shortly after the election.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

They've already murdered in large excess of 50 thousand people, likely over a hundred thousand when accounting for missing and undocumented deaths. Nearly a year ago they opened machine gun fire on a crowd of people trying to get flour. It's been a genocide this entire time. He has not stopped military aid. Kamala herself has literally said,

“I will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself against Iran and Iran-backed terrorist militias. My commitment to the security of Israel is unwavering,” “When we think about the threat that Hamas, Hezbollah… Iran present, I think that it is without any question, our imperative to do what we can to allow Israel to defend itself against those kinds of attacks,”

She is open about the fact that there do not exist any circumstances where she will stop funding the IDF and the actions of the IDF. Israel has claimed to be "defending itself" for the past year. The Palestinian genocide is what they mean by defending themselves.

I'm trans too. I am horrifically afraid of what a fascist American government can and would do to us. This entire election cycle has been a literal nightmare. We can't just pretend reality is different though, we can't just pretend that the Democratic party have not themselves been active participants in the genocide of a colonized ethnicity in the middle east. It's depressing but it's the truth. They've blocked the ICJ from taking action, they've blocked UN motions to take action, they've consistently worked against recognizing the state of Palestine, and they have funded and armed a genocide.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The day after the votes are finished counting, drag is going to become Harris' sworn enemy. Every day until that happens, drag is going to do everything drag can to help her. It's not about being right, it's about doing right.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 13 points 3 weeks ago

I hadn't clocked that drag was using "drag" to refer to drag, and thought drag was saying that drag as a hobby was going to become the sworn enemy of Harris. Was super confused for a minute.

[–] Soluna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago

I agree, but my main point is that when I went to vote it took me 11 minutes. 11 minutes to but my voice in the election. And that does not have to be mutually exclusive with political action, I have been involved in action groups (though not as of lately due to me focusing on my studies, but if a Palestine protest starts on my campus you can bet I'll be joining it), and I'm not making the argument that voting is all you should do. Far from it. But, it is something that is quick and easy to do and if enough people do it, it could prevent a fascist government that makes change far more difficult than it is now.