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[–] ebu@awful.systems 20 points 4 months ago (17 children)

it is a little entertaining to hear them do extended pontifications on what society would look like if we had pocket-size AGI, life-extension or immortality tech, total-immersion VR, actually-good brain-computer interfaces, mind uploading, etc. etc. and then turn around and pitch a fit when someone says "okay so imagine if there were a type of person that wasn't a guy or a girl"

[–] mountainriver@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago (16 children)

Shouldn't they be fans of The Culture? And didn't The Culture have people changing gender for any reason (including curiosity), and it was accepted?

(It was years since I read those books, so I could confuse it with something else.)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago (12 children)

the Culture humans accepted being subsumed into a Mind after 400 years, so Yudkowsky disapproves. He also dislikes The Minds.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

But even that was optional right, it was just the cultural standard, nobody forced them to do it.

It gets even odder in a way, iirc the more destructive megolomaniacs (or cult leaders or whatever) who couldn't really accept that they are not allowed to use up massive amounts of resources/lives of other people were kindly suggested to play out these fantasies in VR, which I assume works on standard science fiction logic that it can be sped up, so those 400 years can stretch a long time in the computonium. (So the culture includes the LW virtual lives fantasy).

(I'm also pretty sure Yud is wrong about the Culture, iirc living by your strength certainly is a thing, it just has a fallback where you don't die if you fail via the robots etc of the Culture (And I think even that could be turned off in most cases)).

Anyway the article linked, and the conversation with the straw SF fan (who is heated while he stays calm) says more about Yud than the Culture.

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