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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When you said the depictions of the Vikings are innaccurate in response to someone saying the Vikings ruined their own image thanks to all the slaving and conquering.

I'm sorry, I assumed you remembered the context of your own argument.

But, sure, they mostly didn't have horned helmets, good point or whatever you think you were defending about them.

Have any other slaver cultures you want to defend? Think the Portuguese and Spanish got a bad rap in the age of sail because the British were bad too?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They are largely inaccurate. I offered no specificity so arguing I'm wrong there would be stupid.

I'm sorry you assumed my position without any context or reason then deigned to compare me to fascists.

That's certainly one reason.

Nope, you apparently do with your whitewashing of slavery in Briton though hilarious you mention the age of sail where the English made their money..... Trading slaves you presumptuous douche.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that was the point, that the Britons having their own problems is irrelevant to the specific criticism of Vikings and how they traumatized all of their neighbors for a thousand years, just as the English being evil colonizers doesn't stop the Portuguese and Spanish from also being evil colonizers.

And I didn't compare you to fascists. I said they're not the only ones guilty of revisionist history.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's part of the inaccuracies yes, that is exactly the point.

You act like the britons weren't slave trading in Dublin and raiding their neighbors and oh yeah the thousand years of slave trading that followed.

The Viking aren't uniquely violent in their area nor are they unique in their violence when compared to global civilizations at the time. You imply the britons weren't raiding, pillaging, raping and slave trading each other which they absolutely were.

Similarly let's remember there's a huge debate about if all Norse were Viking or Vikings happened to be largely Norse given that recovered raids turn up English and Arab dudes dressed like Vikings.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The general consensus from what I'm aware of is that Viking is as good a term as any for a relatively well understood historical culture group because Germanics is too broad, Norse too specific, and Scandinavian either includes or excludes Sami and Finns unfairly depending on how you look at it.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Bingo. Loosely defined and notably not all Norse cultures.