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It's time to see if the polls are right.

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[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

An independent (SNP) and unionist (Labour) party would be hard-pressed to form a government.

But again the whole idea of the votes being identicle under a vastyyly different system

Honestly the big question would be how government is formed. With seat numbers matching % of vote. under our current system. Labour could run a weak gov by depending on greens snp and others never supporting a tor ref vonc.

But with centre right lab, it is likely only ld and lab would be garmented to support most policy votes. Others, often refusing because it's not left enough and not right enough at the same time.

Unfortunately, while the right has clasped over this election. The right has a long history of unity to fight the left.

the left much the opposite in fighting the right.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

An independent (SNP) and unionist (Labour) party would be hard-pressed to form a government.

Would they? Outside of the question of independence, the two parties agree on more than not, don't they? If they alternative is no functioning government, couldn't you see Labour giving some minor concession to the SNP (like maybe allowing Holyrood to have power over one or two of the things that was recently denied by the Supreme Court) in exchange for the SNP's support in Confidence?

the big question would be how government is formed

I'm not really sure what you mean. (It doesn't help that the rest of that paragraph is ridden by typos to the point of being unintelligible. Sorry.) Government would be formed the same way they do it in Germany or New Zealand or any of the many other countries with proportional systems. They would find a way to reach a majority by agreeing on whatever compromises are palatable to both sides. In a hypothetical where the SNP had way more seats, Labour might have to agree to a second independence referendum. If they really needed Green support they might agree to pass strong climate legislation. They might have to give the LibDems a couple of significant cabinet positions. Proportional systems force politicians to actually do politics and pass legislation that is supported by a majority of people, instead of giving a single party a majority of seats based on a minority of people supporting them.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Your final sentence is painfully true.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago

Would they?

SNPs manifesto included it as a key point. So actual coalition government. Well look at how lib dems got hit over student fees. SNP voters would feel the same having voted for an independence party.

Hence why labour have faced the question at all past elections where a win os less probable amd denied they would form such a coalition.

But as said. A confodence amd supply agreement where snp agree to non confidence votes. Is probable on such situs.