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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 55 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I just really like Thor. It’s totally a coincidence that this looks like nazi shit.

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 95 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ok, legit though, a friend of mine started going bald in his mid 20’s. Tried growing his hair out but was eventually convinced that shaving his head was a better look.

Then he started to really get into Melodic & Power Metal and similar sounding music.
Then Amon Amarth. Which lead him to Norse mythology. So he gets a Mjolnir necklace. And he likes leather jackets.

Perfectly innocent!

And he visits some friends in Germany. Coincidentally there is an anti-nazi protest going on. This huge German dude takes one look at the pasty-white, skinhead, Norse symbol, leather jacket friend of mine and gets RIGHT UP I HIS FACE. Very intent on kicking his ass until the people he is visiting defuse the situation.

I think it’s a funny story, at least.

P.S. Fuck Nazis. 🖕

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

So norse runes are nazi symbols now?

Can we make a list of symbols that aren't associated with nazis? How much of the Latin alphabet can we keep?

[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nazis have borrowed Norse symbology since like the beginning of Nazis. Their most recognizable symbol is also borrowed from other cultures.

Unlike the swastika, Norse symbols aren't so strongly associated with Nazis that they're now completely unacceptable, so some Nazis use them as a way to broadcast their interests while keeping some plausibly deniable "I just think they're neat" shit.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't forget they also called themselves Aryan despite the Aryans being from central/south Asia. They're generally considered to be Indo-Iranian based on where they ended up and where they started. But it flows off the tongue better to put the former first.

[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

They also call themselves Caucasian despite that being Eastern European and Asian.

The Nazis were super into Norse runes. Hitler legitimately thought that they held magical powers.

I'd say I'm surprised you didn't know that, but honestly, I'm not because there's a lot of those kinds of things that they don't mention when teaching about WW2. Plenty of skinhead dog whistles that I didn't learn about until later on.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

So norse runes are nazi symbols now?

Yeah, Nazis have been coopting our shit since the 1930s and we're sick of it.

Sincerely

Far left anti-authoritarian pacifist from Denmark who likes Norse mythology.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

The SS symbol is two norse runes meaning the sun and reinterpreted as victory. The nazis wanted to replace religion in their territory with an SS / Nazi based religion using pure aryan symbols instead of praising a jew. The norse symbolism is found throughout Nazi symbolism.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Fuck them for coopting fun symbols and ruining shit for everyone.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I just want to put this out here because it happened to me. I've had a deep interest in Norse mythology since I was a child and have several tattoos featuring runes and Norse mythological imagery. I knew that Othala was a common white supremacist symbol as well as things like the sonnerad, triskele, and valknut so I avoided them.

However, my most visible piece is a raven skull with 3 runes running down the middle. 2 of them are apparently associated with Nazi shit. Thankfully they're obscure enough that normal people don't assume I'm a white supremacist, but it's dog-whistley enough that I've had Nazis assume I was also a Nazi and try to strike up conversations with me.

For anyone considering getting runes, be very careful with which ones you select and how you present them. Here's a decent list of Norse symbols that have been associated with white supremacist movements

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Also the full star of chaos sometimes gets you an anarchist, sometimes a Nazi, and most likely a warhammer player. It’s a weird symbol

[–] Doll_Tow_Jet-ski@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

88!? Dafuq, that's my favorite number! 😭

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's dumb numerology shit. Obviously Nazis can't go around saying "Heil Hitler" since they will immediately be clocked as a Nazi, and H.H. is pretty obvious what they are alluding to. So they post "88" since H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. You'll often see it coupled with "14" which represents the 14 words "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's also why they think that everything is a bad code that they can descramble. They have these super obvious codes to signal to others and assume every other group has a code that's just as poorly disguised. That's how we ended up with shit like Pizzagate. If you order certain pizzas that unlocks the secret basement with the kids! It's also why a lot of them think there's a super secret cabal running everything.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah pizzagate has an even stupider but simpler explanation. Qanon folk thought that pedophiles were using the term Cheese Pizza or CP as a code for Child Prono.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

You know the super secret code! That means you've been to the basement of the pizza parlor that has no basement! You're one of them auntie faw child molesters!

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Never got around to it, but I wanted to do a statistical search of Reddit usernames that pop up in subreddits with two or more numbers at the end. You'll of course have lots of people with '86 or '92 because they had their birth year at the end of their username. I'm betting '88 sticks out on the bar chart. Not everyone with an '88 at the end will be a nazi, but a disproportionate number with '88 would be a hint towards what kind of people the subreddit is attracting.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Wasn't there a copypasta about someone born in the 88 and having it in the username, being called a nazi and being sad about it?

The punchline is that the username in question is GasTheJews88.

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

you also would have to normalise over all the usernames of the platform. as a number repeating itself, i would assume that it generally attracts more attention. source: i compete in team sports. after the birthyears repeating numbers are the ones most often chosen for jersey numbers.

[–] Doll_Tow_Jet-ski@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

@BakerBagel@midwest.social Thanks for the explanation

[–] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Me over here with decades of usernames including 14 in them because it was my "lucky number" in speedway math.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I’d love to see an anti fascist Viking type get “kill Nazis” transliterated into runes as a tattoo