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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/21049862

The only numbers I will ever spell are one and zero, and only when using them as a pronoun, or for emphasis, respectively.

Is there ever a reason to not to use symbols when dealing with numbers? Why would "fourteen whatevers" ever be preferable to "14 whatevers". It's just so much easier to read numbers as symbols, not spelled out.

(Caveat, not including multipliers, like "273 billion").

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[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 month ago (7 children)

What kills me is when people will mix the two in a single context.

"Between eight and 13 percent"

NO. If you're writing one number in digits, you need to write them all the same way.

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sometimes it’s actually better to mix them.

Example from Purdue Owl:

Unclear: The club celebrated the birthdays of 6 90-year-olds who were born in the city.

Clearer: The club celebrated the birthdays of six 90-year-olds who were born in the city.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz -5 points 1 month ago

its a little ableist...

[–] Zwiebel 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But unlike eight 13 is above ten

[–] ftbd 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But 8% and 13% are both below 10

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

So is 999%

And I've just learned percent is under two layers of keyboard menus so that's just fantastic.

[–] Zwiebel 1 points 1 month ago

Do you write thirteen per cent?

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This kills me, but its not as bad as the habit of new articles/print authors to switch between first and last names of the same person within a few sentences.

They will introduce Jeff Snoms, and then refer to them has "Jeff" and "Snoms" interchangeably for no discernable reason. It gets really maddening when they are doing it with 3 or 4 people, so suddenly the story has 2x as many characters involved.

[–] i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait till you read russian novels, where everyone's got 3 names and 2 official nickname everyone is expected to know...

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

not to mention the fact that it's written in russian!

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Oh damn, that is some nails on a chalkboard level stuff.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

they must find it quite repetitive...

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

God damnit. Ya know what. I'm not fixing it

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In general, use numerals to express numbers 10 and above, and use words to express numbers zero through nine.

Example given:

students were in the third, sixth, eighth, 10th, and 12th grades

Your example does not follow the style guide and is an example of when to use digits

Percentages 50% 75%–80%

If you’re a professional writer, you should be following the style guide and this is explicitly spelled out by the APA.

https://apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar-guidelines/numbers/numerals

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

The German standard is to write out everything up to 12 and as English also doesn't say one-teen and two-teen that's how I always did it. (why not tenty-one btw? be consistent your numbers are all weird)

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

This is how I approach it. If there's only a few numbers mentioned and they're small, write them out. If there's many numbers mentioned, then they should all be numbers. And I catch myself messing it up all the time and going back to edit the one number I put in there because it just looks wrong. Context is everything, really.