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So I often come here, even though I oppose the idea of saying "fuck cars". And yes, I do know it's not completely literal. However, I understand the logic.

With that being said, many people are using cars to be delivery contractors. It's not a necessary utility, but it is useful and is used by the vast majority of (I'll assume) 1st world countries. If vehicle use is reduced, what do you think would be a good strategy to keep this industry going? Yes, bicycles can still be used, but it would take more time, which would raise prices (capitalism). And another obvious solution would be to just do away with it and just go to restaurants. Do you have any opinions beyond those two that solutions I've already presented?

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And another obvious solution would be to just do away with it and just go to restaurants.

that's what everyone did and still most people do. It's a great solution 😉

in france even scooters are rare and almost all deliveries are made on e- or manual bikes (mostly by recently migrated cheap labor 🤐)

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I figure delivery would be better because you'd have one vehicle delivering multiple families worth of food in a night, compared to one family per car.

This is especially true if you're using a two-wheeled vehicle for deliveries. This also allows people who are unable to or uncomfortable riding an ebike or something to have their meal transported by one.

Transporting food will always take less energy and space than transporting hungry people.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"transporting hungry people"!

not everything is "management".

From hunter-gatherers to farmers to people who can't even cook—a strange animal who has no time to feed itself. It wants to press a couple of images and voila, magically its food appears before its box.

Soon it will pay people to put food to its mouth while it's busy with its screen. Like a giant baby, it will say aaa and somebody will feed it, cause it takes less energy to be fed.

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's a baseless slippery slope for food delivery which has been around for decades.

Sorry your spare time consists of nothing outside using consumption computers, but that doesn't mean you should project it onto the rest of everybody else.

Do you have an actual argument here other than "phone bad"? Because adding extra cars to the road is a bigger problem, and you sound like an old man yelling at clouds.

Chances are if you have the internet connection needed to post this, you're not nearly independent from food supply chains to talk about "an animal that can't feed itself." Going to the grocery store isn't any closer to what an a wild animal does to get food than using a delivery service.

Until you're ripping apart road kill with your bare teeth and sucking the marrow out of the bones, you're just as strange as every other human, and you can stop acting like you're better than everyone else.