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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

tribal societies with conservatives(you call them reactionaries):

BEEP! Wrong. Conservativism is not the same as beimg reactionary, though similar.

there's that famous uncontacted Island tribe, sentinalese, who kills anyone who attempts to contact them, that's pretty reactionary.

That's not what reactionary means. Reactionary refers to trying to turn the clock back to an earlier point in economic development.

are you using some weird gotcha definition for reactionary and that's why you're pretending not to know about conservative backlash against change in tribal societies?

I am using the correct definition.

completely irrelevant. we're talking about why they are reactionary.

You just explained precisely why it's relevant.

there are several societies like that existing right now that resist change and have reactionary movements that have nothing to do with capitalism.

Never said reactionary movements are only due to Capitalism.

in your comments and the memes you are defending.

Quote me.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

conservatives and reactionaries are the same unless you want to pretend they're different with a special definition that is slightly inaccurate.

since you were playing around, I figured you would be using a made-up gotcha definition.

which is fine, I definitely was waiting for you to take off the mask.

"Reactionary refers to trying to turn the clock back to an earlier point in economic development. "

I asked you for your special definition, you didn't give one.

so yes, if you change the definition now, then the answer will be different.

"I am using the correct definition."

you're using a make-believe special definition for you. sure.

"Never said reactionary movements are only due to Capitalism."

Cool, nobody said you did.

"Quote me. "

done. 4 times in this comment alone.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You made up definitions and can't even quote me. You were never in good-faith.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've quoted you like 20 times.

now you're just literally repeating what I said even though it has nothing to do with my comments.

you want to believe that reactionaries are not conservatives.

that is incorrect.

reactionaries are conservatives.

you want to believe that because otherwise your ideology of a singular evil economic system falls apart.

that is also a flawed understanding of capitalism and your ideology of the One Great Evil is a tenuous bit of fervor.

there are plenty of happy, successful capitalist countries right now all around you.

If you want to play with special definitions, and you are asked for your special definitions beforehand, supply your special definitions or you won't get the answers you're looking for.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You made up definitions and can't even quote me. You were never in good-faith.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've quoted you like 20 times.

now you're just literally repeating what I said even though it has nothing to do with my comments.

you want to believe that reactionaries are not conservatives.

that is incorrect.

reactionaries are conservatives.

you want to believe that because otherwise your ideology of a singular evil economic system falls apart.

that is also a flawed understanding of capitalism and your ideology of the One Great Evil is a tenuous bit of fervor.

there are plenty of happy, successful capitalist countries right now all around you.

If you want to play with special definitions, and you are asked for your special definitions beforehand, supply your special definitions or you won't get the answers you're looking for.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You made up definitions and can't even quote me. You were never in good-faith.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've quoted you like 20 times.

you want to believe that reactionaries are not conservatives.

that is incorrect.

reactionaries are conservatives.

you want to believe they are not because otherwise your ideology of a singular evil economic system falls apart.

that is your flawed understanding of capitalism and your ideology of the One Great Evil is a tenuous bit of fervor.

there are plenty of happy, successful, functioning capitalist countries right now all around you.

If you want to play with special definitions, and you are asked for your special definitions beforehand, supply your special definitions or you won't get the answers you're looking for.