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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

They aren't dreaming, they laid out very clearly what they believe and how they believe it can be achieved.

You just keep saying "I'm rubber, you're glue".

What's your actual point? That you think the person you are replying to is stupid? That would say more about you than them in my opinion.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

how they believe it can be achieved.

that's the part I'm missing.

Like I said, I've been hearing people talk about this giant change for years, and never seen anything like an advance.

Meanwhile there are more billionaires every day, and they are getting more entrenched.

If there's an actual workable plan I've yet to see it.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I've been hearing people talk about this giant change for years, and never seen anything like an advance.

Because we're still in a period of decay.

There's a reason why AES projects are mostly started in underdeveloped regions: once capitalism is established as the dominant system, it is impossible to escape it through democratic means. Capital has captured the democratic process, and it won't allow for its own destruction

If revolution doesn't happen, America will eventually fall to fascism or collapse under its own late-stage capitalism completely. Doesn't matter if you find it impractical, that's just what the analysis points to.

You can suggest your own analysis if you disagree with ours.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

My analysis is that we should do things now instead of waiting.

Look at the marriage laws from 1950s to today. Interracial couples and same sex couples were banned from getting married. Heck, women couldn't have their own bank accounts in may places.

Change is possible.

You're tellign people who are suffering now that the only thing they can do is await a possible revolution.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 2 hours ago

Your analysis is just vibes, bud, it doesn't have any eye or consideration for any systems or material relations

If tomorrow we passed a law protecting trans and minority rights, the next election the reactionary forces will push back and make it harder - if not impossible - to run on protecting them again.

Why do you think it's so hard for Harris to run on Palestinian liberation, or immigration reform, or trans rights? Because she'd lose, because the American voter base is frothing at the mouth and becoming more reactionary every election cycle, and your 'analysis' doesn't even bother to see or acknowledge that trend, let alone address it.