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[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 7 months ago (26 children)

This is so catastrophically problematic on so many levels. "Conservative" or "right" are valid and legitimate political orientations, just like "left" is. Posts like this that suggest that a political view is wrong are just so closed-minded and fundementally intolerant. These always seem to disregard that there is a disagreement because of ideology and always suggest that "the conservatives'" opinion is of any less value than their own. What the heck?

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (15 children)

I mean, while I sort of agree with you on one hand, on the other hand I saw conservatives try to overthrow democracy and successfully overturn roe v wade recently so....

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Yeah but extremes on either side of the spectrum try to overthrow democracy. We have to fight the extremes but not the whole political orientation.

I just looked up Roe V Wade (I'm not from the US) and it appears that it was recently overturned by a federal court. A court does not make the laws, so overturning an older case means, as fas as I know, correcting the decision on laws that they have to follow, no matter if they like it or not. If you want a law on abortion, you should get the parliament to pass such a law IMO.

Generally, if someone's methdology is unacceptable, that doesn't invalidate their political views and certainly not the whole political orientation.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The court does make the laws now because a conservative Congress illegally delayed SCOTUS appointments and rushed others so the conservative president was able to stack it with wildly unqualified conservative justices. Their guy also did an insurrection. 1/3 of the court are appointments from an insurrectionist who tried to bribe a foreign country to smear his political opponent. All conservatives are totally fine with all of that.

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  • What's a SCOTUS appointment if you dont mind me asking?

  • Seems like a questionable system though, right? Im vaguely familar on how partys in the US can appoint judges for life as soon as others leave...

  • Isn't this favorable appointing of judges done on both sides, depnding on the governing patty (aka Democrats and Republicans) or what is the scandal about what happened under Trump?

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  1. Supreme Court of The United States appointment. Presidents appoint a candidate they like, congress greenlights their ascent to the position.

  2. Oh highly questionable, it's caused a lot of people to rethink the safety of lifetime appointments. But there are avenues to try, someone doesn't have to retire or die, the number of SCOTUS judges can be raised and then you can appoint new judges, but then so can the next party and so on so forth, or at least they tell us that the threat of 'the other side' packing the courts is too much of a danger for their own party to pack the courts

  3. It is done on both sides, except both sides haven't had an equal chance to make appointments due to life span of existing judges and the then Senate Majority Leader (senator who is appointed the head of that ruling body when their party takes a majority in that body) in 2008 blocked all Supreme Court appointments that came up for all 8 years of the Obama administration. That was Mitch McConnell, and he, and his party, blocked appointment of new judges by just never allowing the motion to be voted on, as the Republicans held the senate 2 years into Obama presidency (when some seats opened) and as such their majority leader gets to decide the docket of what will be voted on in the senate and he chose to never once allowed SCOTUS appointee motions to reach the floor.

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 7 months ago

Thanks, this clears things up for me

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