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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Indoctrinated parents indoctrinate kids.

See also: religion.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I'm just perplexed how kids are still religious in 2024 with vast amount of free information out there. I thought this cult bullshit was about to end with my generation when we got free, unrestricted information exchange invented.

I guess you can't fix irrationality with rationality huh

[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Religion is not always a cult. All religions are not like Christianity.

See Hinduism, Buddhism, confussionism

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hinduism is the textbook definition of a cult. It's just old AF, so we give it a pass.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] steakmeoutt@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I suggest you look up Kali for a start.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] swab148@startrek.website 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Linux is definitely a cult, and I am a proud cultist

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Found the lemmy Linux meme user

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Mentioning Linux outside the Linux subs is to Linux users what "pspspspsps" is to cats

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

It's tough being young. Jobs don't pay what they used to. Rent costs too much. Even the food is a struggle.

You know who is the blame for this?

Brown people.

This message is brought to you by the conservative party of your country. They're all the fucking same.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It's easier to be reactionary, and being reactionary leads to conservatism.

[–] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

To be fair if you’re anything past Boomer, at this point you should be too embarrassed to vote for any GOP candidate. When the party decided to support Trump—a guy with proven sexual assault charges, pending fraud charges, pending classified document charges, a penchant for insurrection that he happily acknowledges, and more and more video surfacing of him unable to be coherent, hopefully most everyone with any connection to reality has realized it’s time to kick him and the GOP to the curb.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Indoctrination, propaganda, alt-right playbook recruitment through targeting the disaffected... these aren't young people who've turned to conservatism, they've been actively targeted by right wing factions in order to bolster their position.

Edit: Oh, and also Reagan era neo-liberals are the fucking worst and when they shit on progressives and their ideas, they basically push away people who would otherwise be politically left leaning.

[–] Masterblaster420@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

a few things seem to motivate young idiots into conservative thought:

MRA their daddy their rural background edgelord BS

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Being born into a conservative household can be a hard hurdle to clear. I grew up with the unquestioning belief that the left was straight-up evil (shocker: that was projection) but then moved around a ton and worked alongside a huge diversity of people after highschool cuz I joined the military and didn't have a choice: that exposure was a real shock, but since our brains don't like being wrong, I resisted it for a good while before finally acknowledging that I was acting like a moron and started thinking more critically about politics and what political decisions meant for my community.

Not everyone gets that healthy slap-to-their-senses. Doesn't excuse shit, but that's the 'why'.

 

It'd be interesting to see some actual political metrics on other service members. The military is always seen as being SOLID red, and while yes it does lean that way, the tiny bubble of the military that was my personal field of view seemed maybe a 60-40 split; and I personally went in red, and separated borderline radical blue. I know at least a handful of others who did the same... no idea if it's always been that way, or if this is a developing trend. Or if I happened to be stationed in an uncharacteristically blue slice of military. /shrug.

[–] yrnttm@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Biggest reason I see is religious indoctrination.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i'm 24 and a proud conservative: i want to replace all highways with railways and interurban tramways, return to having small dense cities surrounded by lively rurality, dissolve large corporations and replace them with small local businesses, and bring back that thing where we went "hey the slightly insane guy who never works is living in a shack that barely qualifies as shelter, let's build him a new cottage so he has a proper place to live, because everyone has a fundamental right to housing no matter what."

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Conservative literally means to conserve. To not change the way things are.

You wanting change means you are progressive.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Consecutive may also mean change such that you can just carry on with your life as normal. But that's not what conservatives do nowadays.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For men, a lot of it has to do with personal frustration and several "sources" or "influencers" pointing to communism, cultural marxism, feminism, etc, as the culprits of everything bad going on. Attacking a scapegoat you've been led to believe is "the reason" you can't get a job or a girlfriend is easy and emotionally satisfying.

Thinking, rationalizing and realizing how and why shit's fucked up, down, left and right doesn't fill you with good vibes.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

But you don't need a scapegoat. The problem is literally the billionaires. You only need a scapegoat to justify white supremacist hierarchy building.

[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Grifting is pretty profitable these days

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[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is so catastrophically problematic on so many levels. "Conservative" or "right" are valid and legitimate political orientations, just like "left" is. Posts like this that suggest that a political view is wrong are just so closed-minded and fundementally intolerant. These always seem to disregard that there is a disagreement because of ideology and always suggest that "the conservatives'" opinion is of any less value than their own. What the heck?

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (15 children)

I mean, while I sort of agree with you on one hand, on the other hand I saw conservatives try to overthrow democracy and successfully overturn roe v wade recently so....

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[–] hobbes_@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (6 children)

"I want a fiscally conservative tax policy" is a valid political opinion.

"I think trans people are grooming kids" "I think the election was rigged" "I think women shouldn't have total control over their bodies"

Those are not. Those are bigoted bullshit beliefs hiding as political opinions.

Your entire comment actually boils down to "you are bad for not tolerating the intolerant!" ...and you can fuck all of the way off with that.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. This is a terrible take. Is basically implying "both sides are the same", a staple in the ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM group but they're not. Blue side wants to maintain the status quo and maybe, very slightly, make light progressive changes (but again very small changes) while red side is trying to destroy social safety nets (cutting socials security), women's autonomy (roe vs wade and more) and democracy itself (Jan 6). That's not to mention that Republicans for the most part built their ideology based off hate. Their drive comes from reactionary outrage.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Democrats: "Stop genocide now!"

Republicans: "We won't stop the genocide!"

Centrists: "Can't we find a middle ground here? How about just a little genocide?"

Republicans: "I guess we're okay with that."

Democrats: "No!"

Centrists: "Wow, so much for the tolerant left!"

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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I regret to inform you that conservatism got hijacked and hasn't been a valid political orientation since Teddy Roosevelt left office.

[–] Sprokes@jlai.lu -1 points 8 months ago

Add to that being black or LGBT.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

I think they might just have different ideas and things that have shaped their thinking, values, all that stuff.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm a 80s conservative. Which makes me a 2024 ANTIFA.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The 80s was the Reagan administration 🙄

[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's hard to describe personal politics prior to 2000. It was easy to be a sane conservative in the 80s. There was obviously shady shit going on behind the scenes. But outwardly the conservative movement mostly espoused mainstream thought at the time.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I see that, but it's hard not to connect the dots between Reagan and Trump; what people voted for then has a direect relationship with what they're voting for now, and it wasn't rare to hear alarm bells being raised back then either. These progressions are not chaotic, unpredictable, or sudden, so it's weird to hear people talk about how normal conservatives used to be just thirty years ago. The window was not so skewed then maybe, but it was being pulled right even then.

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