Methods? No. The far-right relies on terror, fear, and explicit power structures such as a police state to maintain power. Leftists oppose such structures, even on the ultra-left.

Objectives? Absolutely not. Right-wingers seek to maintain Capitalism, the far-right seeks to implement fascism as a reactionary protection of Capitalist hierarchy, complete with racial and gender hierarchy. The extreme left, ie Anarchists and Communists, seek a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society based on horizontal power structures. Completely different.

Goals? Same as objectives.

Horseshoe theory is absolute nonsense, and is used to protect the status quo even if the status quo must be radically changed.

[–] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Stalin and Pol Pot and Saddam used mostly the same methods as Hitler and as Pinochet and just like the Taliban.

They wanted total power to reform the society to their day dreams. There is not much difference if you call your Economy Plan "Five Year Plan" or "Maximale Kriegswirtschaft". In the end everyone gets under the foot of the Big Brother, the Grosser Führer, вождь woschd (Yes, Stalin let himself call Führer as did several other Extremist leaders).

We need to learn that the Extremists are much further away from the middle than the parties of the middle to each other. But also the Extremists are much closer to themselves.

Even Trump and Putin show a lot of those methods and while Trump dreams of US Fascism and Putin dreams of Reviving Stalinism their Objectives are just the same: Total power for themselfes.

Oh, I hear you already screaming "But they weren't Socialists/Fascists" - well, they were part of the Socialist International, they called themselves Socialists and people travelled there to see Socialism. "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."

The Way less extreme people defend themselves from the more extreme people is just "But they weren't true right/left wing. They were something else!" - Boy, I am so tired of it. If 99% if your ventures into Extremism always end the same then I see a pattern that the results will ALWAYS be the same.

And seeing how easily East Germans nowadays change from Ultra-Left to Ultra-Right and visa versa I say: Proof by Observation in the Wild.

I am not even talking about the US where 90% of the people simply don't even understand what left, right, middle, liberal and Extremism means. When giving a kid free health care is socialism and people think free voting is disrespectable liberalism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is even more bullshit, lmao. The only leftist you listed was Stalin, every single one of the others is a far-right fascist that oversaw a Capitalist economy. That includes Putin, who is reactionary. Even then, many call Stalin red-fash, and they aren't entirely wrong either.

Additionally, if you think reactionary changes after states fall is because the far left and far right are similar, then again, you don't understand historical trends or movements. These are reactionary movements to a large-scale failure.

Again, this is nothing but horse-shoe theory nonsense, it's equivalent to astrology in validity but far more dangerous politically.

Here's a quick example: which is better, an extreme antiracist, or an extreme racist? In your eyes, both are equally bad. Radicalism is not bad alone, neither is extremism. Each view must be judged on a case by case basis.

[–] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whenever a Left-Extremist does something stupid his buddies just claim "Well, he wasn't Left anyway. Lets just pretend he was a Nazi instead, haha."

Brilliant. But easy to see through.

The Right-Extremist takes peoples property and life because they are the wrong race. The Left-Extremists takes peples property without reason and life because we wasn't left enough.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It would be amazing if you could say something coherent about the left without making shit up, lmao

[–] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Feel free to quote and analyse any mistakes I made in detail.

And if you can't: Then you are lying.

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