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We'll have a long memory as things get worse for working class Americans, minorities and women
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this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2024
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I'll vote Dem, but I am ashamed beyond measure of the Dem party. Despite the public doing all they can to stop Trump, the actual candidates running against Trump are sitting on their asses and refusing to take serious action. This "Blue Wave" is not approval FOR Harris-Walz, but rather DISAPPROVAL for Trump. Dems are ultimately more responsible for fascism in the U.S. than their voters.
All in all, the entire United States Government is at fault. This is just one reason why I want an independent Cascadia.
It's sadly the same story in the UK the public are sick and tired of the Tory's bullshit. Unfortunately the Labour Party has never been soo right wing. Normally they they wouldn't have have stood a chance on such an authoritarian, uninspiring manifesto but here we are. The cynicism of the people in charge of the Labour Party stinks to high heaven. They fucked the party while the left were in charge then purged them when they retook control. I'll be lucky to still be about by the time the left ever get control again.
Canada is setup to have a Conservative majority after the Liberals utterly ruined everything for 2 and a bit terms. The Liberals are a centre-right party that campaigns as a centre-left party and it has caused a huge rightward-drift.
We're pretty screwed because somehow people think the solution to unaffordable housing and whole industries being captured by oligarchs is austerity.
The things that gets under my skin the most are: the contempt they have for much of the populace; their habitual dishonesty; holding power is more important than achieving any measurable good; their apparent philosophy seems to be gradually increasing inequality; their toxic attitude to anyone to their left.
Harris will hold any announcement of dropping weapons shipments to israel till the very last day to see if the polls tell her she will get away with supporting the genocide and still winning the election. The more doubts she has, the more she might flip. So might as well hold your vote till the last second and play out this game of chicken.
Fuck right off with that "Dems are just as much at fault".
It's the system that sucks, and it's the Republicans that exploited the system.
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't problem. Dems can't win by playing the game by the rules, but if they stoop to the Republicans level, then they are just as fascist.
You gotta see the conundrum, right? Dems take the high road and they lose, dems take the low road and they're fascist, too.
The only option is to pull out as many stops as possible, while working within the rules to either get moderate conservatives (the ones that hate Trump, at least) to switch to Harris. Which means that the big-tent-party gets bigger by expanding to the right.
So they do stuff like observe that Trump's whole schtick is "I'm not the incumbent". That didn't work well for him in 2020. Getting Biden to step down and throw the entire GOP campaign off kilter was, IMO, brilliant. Yeah, it sucks that there was no real primary...but there's also the issue of optics when primarying an incumbent president.
And I don't think the pageantry of a primary would've accomplished anything. It would've shattered the party even more with infighting while Trump and the GOP leaned back with their popcorn and pulling out sound bites to twist on Fox and OAN to rattle their own base even more. And in the end the Dems would've just chosen who they wanted to and half the parties voters will be just as, if not more, pissed, and end up boycotting the election as a result.
And then they get to really punch Trump where it hurts, by saying things like how he's now the oldest person to ever run for president of the US. You just know that's gotta burn.
Honestly, Harris/Walz is probably the best they could've offered up, not because they are great politicians (although they are), but because this is a battle of appearances and personality, and the two of them have it in spades.