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Music publishing companies notched another court victory against a broadband provider that refused to terminate the accounts of Internet users accused of piracy. In a ruling on Wednesday, the conservative-leaning US Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit sided with the big three record labels against Grande Communications, a subsidiary of Astound Broadband.

The appeals court ordered a new trial on damages because it said the $46.8 million award was too high, but affirmed the lower court's finding that Grande is liable for contributory copyright infringement.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 232 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Exactly what law states internet connections should be terminated for users accused of piracy?

And are we going to selectively enforce this against poor people, or are they going to start demanding the trunk lines feeding AI datacenters be cut as well? (I asked rhetorically).

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 65 points 1 month ago

AI shouldn’t be allowed to touch the internet because it’s basically stealing everything and never giving references which is plagiarism.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 month ago

Come on, you don't think an industry that habitually uses automated takedown requests regardless of merit would falsely accuse anyone, do you?

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Might be a good idea to torrent whatever you need before the corpos manage to get some law passed that makes it so that isps will have to terminate users for that.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Need a new internet protocol that doesnt use ISPs

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

You want a protocol that will build physical last-mile connections to peoples' houses?

[–] Proposal6114@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

I just woke up everyone in my house with a giggle fit thanks to you. Yes weed is involved.

That was amazing.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago

Well the birds still have to link to the main network somewhere to exchange packets... which I assume would still be an ISP, unless all you want is local mesh networking.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

what point are you trying to make?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It can cover a one-kilometer radius

So most of the last mile.

If we try to have cable or telcos do last-mile they'll fuck us as hard as they possibly can, make laws guaranteeing themselves a permanent monopoly, etc.

We need wireless as a backup just to keep those worthless fuckers honest, then we can do a hybrid model with some scattered fiber ONTs terminating into wifi nodes.

What we really need is to string fiber on the power lines, but the telcos and comcast pay the power companies extra to stop that too.

Break the monopoly power and this all comes tumbling down.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

“And then we can do a hybrid model” congratulations you just invented an ISP.

“Then we’ll string wires on poles” congratulations you just invented an ISP again.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
  1. Actually, you've invented a cooperative.

  2. Actually, you've just made internet access a utility.

Seriously, you seem really oblivious, the issue isn't technology, we basically have magic at this point, the issue is breaking the economic model.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ok, I still don’t understand how you’ve magically invented access to the Internet Protocol network, but without an Internet Service Provider. Yes, I’ve taken direct action to enable the creation of several WISP networks in the communities I care about. Can you come up with more useless strawmen or do you just want to keep feeling special?

Edit: upon further review it seems like you think infrastructure just magically maintains itself???

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

This commoditizes wisps, they aren't only in places with LoS, or with special hardware, while still using unlicensed band.

And megaisps have 2 barriers that preserve their market position:

  1. Capital costs

  2. Right of way access they got mostly in the 70s and 80s if not from the original bell rollout

And weren't you the one who particularly said 'last mile'? That's exactly what this is.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

Someone will still have to install and maintain the wireless access points, physically link them to the local network trunk and negotiate for service with the backbone provider... which would just be an ISP, who would sell you access to the WiFi system like a cellular provider.

This isn't a problem that can be solved with technology. Monopolies have to be fixed with government oversight.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago

I second this. Anyone know the code reference?

[–] lido@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Asking the real question.