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Mazda recently surprised customers by requiring them to sign up for a subscription in order to keep certain services. Now, notable right-to-repair advocate Louis Rossmann is calling out the brand.

It’s important to clarify that there are two very different types of remote start we’re talking about here. The first type is the one many people are familiar with where you use the key fob to start the vehicle. The second method involves using another device like a smartphone to start the car. In the latter, connected services do the heavy lifting.

Transition to paid services

What is wild is that Mazda used to offer the first option on the fob. Now, it only offers the second kind, where one starts the car via phone through its connected services for a $10 monthly subscription, which comes to $120 a year. Rossmann points out that one individual, Brandon Rorthweiler, developed a workaround in 2023 to enable remote start without Mazda’s subscription fees.

However, according to Ars Technica, Mazda filed a DMCA takedown notice to kill that open-source project. The company claimed it contained code that violated “[Mazda’s] copyright ownership” and used “certain Mazda information, including proprietary API information.”

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[–] Fester@lemm.ee 19 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Toyota, Mazda and Honda are the only makes I’ve really ever considered, or ever plan to consider. Of those 3, Honda has not gone that route yet as far as I know. Correct me if I’m wrong.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

22 CRV here. Fob based remote start, no subscription for that or anything (though I would like to get the maps updates without payin) :(

I've used three remote start once in almost 3 years and I live in Wisconsin. It's just really not that necessary. The car warms up quickly just driving.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Honda collects and sells your driving history without your consent.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 9 points 10 hours ago

ALL of them do this. Literally all.

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world -4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Might as well throw Subarus into that list. They're LGBT Toyotas lol

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Toyota tried to push this exact same remote start subscription BS as well so cross them out too