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That's basically what happened with me and atheism.
Worth it, raising atheist kids in a more tolerant place now.
Atheism is just as illogical as theism. You can apply Occam's razor to assume that there is no god/gods, but that is still just that, an assumption. Agnosticism would be the logically/scientifically backed argument.
No, it's not. Unfalsifiable deities are unscientific. So being an atheist against any kind of unfalsifiable deity is scientific. And all religion is unfalsifiable by definition.
Being an atheist is also unfalsifiable. Disbelief in any one God is not unscientific, but disbelief in the possibility of God is, objectively.
I have confused atheism and anti-theism.
That is stupid logic. The possibility of a potato controlling everyones' mind is not zero.
There is nothing that indicates a god exists, hence no reason to believe it. The scientific way would be to belive it if it was possible to prove, but since it is not and there is nothing to indicate otherwise, atheism.
It's also possible that there's a teapot in orbit around Mars.
Much more likely, even. RIP Bertrand
Atheism is lack of belief in any god existing, not disbelief in the possibility of a god existing. I don't know where you're getting that definition from, as I've never met an atheist who would agree with it? If you ask atheists if they are open to the idea of a god clearly intervening in the universe in any meaningful way, thus proving both their existence and their status as a god, I think the majority would say of course. Many of us would also be disappointed as those gods tend to be selfish, mean, exclusionary, and anti-nature in their treatment and expectations for humans, but we would accept it as reality.
It just seems unlikely to happen given that none seem to have done so yet. If you want to speak of a god in terms of a "spirit of the universe" or similar nebulous impersonal, non-intervening concept, that is hardly different from just believing in the teapot or unicorn, in that it will have zero influence on your life and you may as well not even concern yourself with beliefs at all. Which, coincidentally, is how most "believers" live their lives anyway - without regard to any of the supposed commandments their gods have instituted. It's like they only believe in the idea of belief as a virtue unto itself, not the actual beliefs. And thank goodness they only go that far!
Yeah, because you can't disprove someone not believing in a higher power
Atheism doesn't make a positive claim that something does or does not exist, it's a statement of belief
Gnostic atheism is akin to a claim there is no higher beings, that I'll grant
Typically, atheists don't spend a lot of time thinking about gods. Also, most theists aren't just theists, they follow a very specific religion/god, which is orders of magnitude less reasonable.
I don't know man, have you met atheists online? Theyr worse than vegans.
So it's logical to doubt whether pink flying unicorns exist?
Or could it be that not believing in those is the logical position?
Abrahamic religions are cancer
That's a fundamental misunderstanding of what agnosticism and atheism even are. Agnosticism is a belief in knowability, and most atheists are agnostic - they make no claim to have certain knowledge about whether gods exist. They mainly acknowledge there is no reasonable evidence to believe in any gods as presented. Many theists I have known are gnostic, as they claim to have definite knowledge that their god exists. Atheism is just a position on whether gods exist. Gnostic atheism is as dishonest as gnostic theism, but then, I have never met a gnostic atheist. I have met many agnostic theists, which is why they are tolerable to be around. They don't make any claims to special revelation.
are you sure they're equally illogical?