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Discord alternatives? (lemy.lol)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by pisturko@lemy.lol to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Discord is banned in Turkiye. The reason is some data theft, blackmail, AI montage photos, etc. As usual, our government made the easiest and most illogical move :)

I am looking for an alternative platform to talk and chat with my friends. Which platforms do you recommend?

The ones I tried:

Revolt: Voice chat is not stable. They do not accept new registrations.
Matrix: Unstable overall.
TeamSpeak: ancient interface. We can still try it.
XMPP: It has an old interface like TS. Not sure if it has voice channels.
Your recommendations?

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[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whatever, I mean 3rd party access to messages, which includes both security and privacy.

Have you ever heard of Viber? Even though their chats are E2EE, there's an option to sync them from mobile to desktop, and it was available for more than a decade. Messages are not stored in a central location.

Signal just isn't good enough for anything serious. It's a rather simple and not a very convenient app, that is getting too much attention from privacy enthusiasts.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's no technical reason why they couldn't sync messages, but there is an attack if they do. Basically, someone could set up a new device with your account and grab all of your past messages. Since Signal doesn't sync messages, they'll only get messages going forward.

It should certainly be an option to sync, but I don't think it should be on by default (or at least it should ask on setup).

[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So just like I said, illusory security gains.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The security gains may be illusory, but the privacy benefits are significant.

[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not being able to see my old messages on desktop is a privacy benefit? I don't think you are correct.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes it is. If you can set up the app on a new device and access all your old messages, then that means anyone who can get your account creds can do the same. That could be a hacker, an ex, or law enforcement.