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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

there's plenty of linguistics cranks, but most of them have nationalistic tint, like people thinking that all languages come from turkish or something like that

[–] khalid_salad@awful.systems 23 points 1 month ago

Everybody knows that all languages derive from ULTRAFRENCH.

[–] acausal_masochist@awful.systems 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You give me a word, any word, and I show you how the root of that word is Greek.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 16 points 1 month ago
[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope that was a typo for Proto-Indo-European

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 20 points 1 month ago

PIE was just people wanting to eventually speak Greek but they had yet to figure out how, so they were just working backwards little by little trying to make their language more like Greek.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

like people thinking that all languages come from turkish

This is amazing, I fucking love this. People striving to create the lowest stakes possible conspiracy. I struggle to think of something that would have less impact on the world no matter it were true or false.

A shadowy cabal of powerful people guarding the secret of "actually, it was [rolls die] Turkish people who invented [rolls another die] language!"

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

then think again, because it was a part of continuing series: turkish nationalism

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay sure, but this is comical. A Turkish nationalist will be a Turkish nationalist with or without this idea. It's the equivalent of saying that Turkish people have naturally less odorous farts and thus TURKIYE SHALL RULE THE WORLD!

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

okay but this idea was kinda central to modern turkish nationalism. see, kurds are not distinct people, they just speak turkish but wrong (heard anything similar recently?) also this is part of the reason why standard turkish is actual common language in turkey

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago

oh, it's like russia's idea of ukrainian and belarussian. fucking orphans of the empires…

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

Funny you say that, as it was the Dutch who invented dice.