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I wouldnt work with anyone who ever was near trump either.
Spoiling michigan would be a win for them because the democrats would rather ignore the green party. The whole point of the green party is to affect change in the democrat party. Yes they are going after democrats They are trying to convert democrats who aren't aware of our countries shortcomings internationally.
They don't expect to win the presidential office, they expect to affect change within the democrat party by giving a home to those who don't feel represented by democrats or republicans anymore.
I want people to vote honestly. Even with all of these issues I have with the democrats I still voted for Kamala. The point is broadening the discussions so people aren't afraid to be honest about politics.
Again, you can keep lying to yourself and others, but I won't.
They are ignored because they are spoiler candidates. Because they do nothing when its not Presidential election time.
Because Jill Stein is a spoiler candidate.
You can keep trying to selectively ignore parts of this, but it doesnt change anything. I'll say again - if they wanted to effect real change, they would be going for local, state, and then federal seats in all elections.
But they aren't. Because Jill Stein is a spoiler candidate and nothing more.
Edit: And they definitely wouldn't want a threat to democracy to get into office. That right there should be your bit where you realize what she is.
You can say spoiler candidate all you want, I'm not sure why you think that will change my mind.
Your mind won't be changed, you're going to keep saying the same stuff, I get that.
I mention it for others who read this thread. Working Families Party is a great example of a third party that actually is working for change, and collaborates to stop the far right.
The Green Party, and Jill Stein, is actively working in a way to the advantage of the far right, as well as blatantly working directly with them. Which makes her... dun dun dun.... a spoiler candidate.
So yeah, I'll keep repeating it.
I didnt vote for the green party. I voted for kamala in the federal election and chose the working class party for the rest that I could, and democrats where I couldn't.
Does that satisfy you?
Thats wonderful!
I still want to make sure people know what Jill Stein is, and don't throw away their vote to her as the republicans she collaborates with want.
I'd argue that all Democrats should vote for literally any third party if they are in a non-contested state, if one of those exists.
Other than that though, I still respect the freedom to vote for what you believe in, and do not think Jill Stein is at least knowingly a "Russian asset" if you want to call it that.
What I consider her is a republican asset, to be clear. Which is why she works so closely with so many far right republicans, and is specifically trying to pull votes in battleground states to give Trump the win. Lets be honest here - even her own people say thats the goal.
And I don't think any state is really non-contested at this point. I will continue to support expanding social programs and shutting down the far right at every turn, and now that I know WFP is in my state enough, I'll be supporting them at every point I can.
I also won't turn a blind eye to someone intentionally trying to get the far right in power. Which is what Jill Stein and the Green Party are doing.