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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17199847

@Snowden

The DNC is the only reason you're not currently enjoying a second-term Sanders and a sane Supreme Court.

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[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 73 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Acknowledged. We circled the wagons around the wrong candidate twice in a row. Hillary Clinton was a well qualified candidate with likeability issues. Biden is a long time politician with equally good if not better qualifications than Clinton, he's just old. Bernie is older. Bernie aligns a hell of a lot closer to my beliefs than the other candidates out there. Bernie isn't in this race and has endorsed Biden, he's a wise man and usually is right on most topics. I'm going with Bernie on this one, vote Biden and start building the next generation of leaders, maybe that next leader is you.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Both Hillary and Biden are closer to the country as a whole and more likely to pull moderates, who you need to win if you want to actually win a national election.

The internet has allowed leftists to delude themselves into thinking the only people that need to be appealed to is them.

They fundamentally do not understand the kinds of people that make up this country. I'd love if we were a left leaning population. We aren't. Continually lying to ourselves about why Bernie didn't win is a type of paralyzing ignorance that only looks more and more absurd as the years go on.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 37 points 5 months ago

Do a poll asking Americans their political alignment and the balance will be center right. Poll them again on specific issues and the average end up well to the left of the Democratic party. For a prime example, look at how all the abortion referendums have turned out in red states.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If you poll Americans on issues and not on politicians, the average American is politically closer to Bernie than to Biden. Bernie is more centrist than Biden is.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In case you have not noticed Bernie is not on the ballot. He is supporting Joe Biden. If you support Bernie, you will vote for Joe Biden, not some off the wall third party candidate.
Also Biden's policies resonate with Democrats AND Republicans. Our oligarch owned MSM doesn't do ANY favors for Joe Biden.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I really hope Biden wins. I don't want my American partners to be genocided.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

CNN and mainstream media has deluded liberals into believing Hillary is actually a viable candidate.