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EVs outlasting ICE cars says Renault boss | Auto Express (www.autoexpress.co.uk)
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[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah so now it's elaboration and credible sources.

Uh, yeah? If you're going to make a vague claim without evidence it's fair to ask for details and some assurance that you're not making things up

I'm already one up on this with an article from the FT about insurance costs being higher due to the increased likelihood of an electric car write off.

How about some actual evidence they're more reliable? Other than your bizarre hypothetical arguments.

Again, you're talking about fragility - something being easy to break when acted on by an external thing. Reliability is about a car breaking down on its own. Something can be fragile, unreliable, both, or neither.

Tied to the dealer. There's very few independent EV garages. 95% of the time you'll have to take the price for any repair they offer you. You can't shop around.

Still has nothing to do with the likelihood of a car breaking down with normal use - in fact, you're kind of proving my point because if they did break down all the time, maybe you'd see EV shops opening up? Or existing shops branching out? Not sure why you think they'd refuse the business opportunity

Complexity. Although they often use the "one moving part" argument with all the extra infrastructure for charging etc they can have very bespoke electric parts. Which means no simple of the shelf pattern parts that are as good for much less. Dealer parts only.

Delay in these parts. There just isn't enough of a parts infrastructure at the moment. This can even cover simple things like lights or trim.

Not enough technicians.

Again, NONE of this has anything to do with the likelihood of a car breaking down. You're predicting (maybe accurately, maybe not) what would happen if a breakdown were to happen. And your points aren't really inherent to electric vehicles as much as they are to less-common ones. Much of what you said could apply to a kei truck brought in from Japan, a decades-old car, a supercar, or a car you just don't see on the road as often like a Smart car or Mini Cooper.

[–] gasgiant@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

Still no evidence from you. Also it appears you can't read or comprehend simple statements. I said there were more issues with electric vehicles than just batteries. I didn't say that was anything to do with reliability. Issues with vehicle ownership impact how long that vehicle lasts. Hopefully this time it will sink in. This isn't about durability or fragility (which are also two concepts you also don't seem to understand) of an electric motor in a hypothetical situation.

The article isn't about reliability it is about Electric Vehicles outlasting ICE vehicles. Which is the life of the vehicle. So includes all the things I mentioned. Unless now we're in another hypothetical world where there are no problems whatsoever over the life of the vehicle. In which case they both last forever.

Your statements about why there aren't EV garages is complete nonsense and shows you know nothing about the actual subject.