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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

nar. HDDs don't require power to maintain their state. So that's an advantage they'll always have over SSDs, which means there will be use-cases where HDDs are the better choice.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

SSDs can reliably hold charge states for years, and there are storage media that are more reliable than HDD.

HDD's would still find a niche, probably, as a balanced option, but said niche will likely get smaller and smaller over many years.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It will probably be a choice of quieter, faster, expensive vs loud, high capacity, pretty cheap.

Unless we start with 3.5" SSDs (pls), HDDs will always be storage kings.
Imagine 3.5" SSDs with 3-4 layer sandwiched PCBs...And inexpensive NAND...

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why is 3.5" preferable? You can always use a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter, and even 2.5" casing is mostly empty anyway

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

More volume for more NAND-PCBs

and even 2.5" casing is mostly empty anyway

Does this count for the higher capacity drives (e.g. >2TB)? Preferably TLC?

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Proud owner of 1TB Samsung 860 Evo.

Pretty much yes, it counts :D

Moreover, iirc, there are 64TB 2,5" SSDs and 100TB 3,5" available for enterprise users, and 8TB M.2 SSDs on consumer market. Space is really not a constraint.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I believe the 100TB SSD is the one LTT showcased a few years ago?
My problem with M.2 and high capacity is them vharging an arm and a leg for it. The cheapest I can find on the quick side is a WD black 8TB for 698,99€ with tax.
You know how much storage space I can buy from 700€ in spinning rust? Quadruple the space of the single stick of nand.
Surprisingly a SATA TLC SSD is even more expensive at 814,93€ (Kingston DC600M). But SAS will cost you your whole arm.

The constraint may not be the size but the cost certainly is.
And if they put lower capacity NAND on the PCBs we could reduce costs

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

HDDs will probably always be useful for media storage, where quick access time isn't required and it isn't being used constantly. They should die for PCs though.

Exactly. I haven't used a HDD in my PC for years, yet I bought HDDs for my homelab NAS. Unless SSDs get a lot cheaper, I'll keep buying HDDs for on-prem bulk storage.

doubt it would matter much, if you need long term storage you're using LSO tapes anyway.

HDD might be nice for a bulk backup or just mass storage, but i think the primary driving factor for them is going to be cost.

[–] JamesFire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

HDDs don’t require power to maintain their state. So that’s an advantage they’ll always have over SSDs

SSDs are not flash memory.