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It all started with the unofficial godot discord admin dealing with some chuds and people turning their ire towards the Godot Foundation staff instead.

Since Godot has stubbornly remained on the Xitter nazi bar as a valid space for PR and social media interaction and dared to promote the Wokot hashtag and reiterate their progessiveness, the reactionaries infesting that space are now piling on their socials and harassing everyone they can get their eyes on.

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Anyway, solidarity with the targets of harassment. I hope they finally realize that Xitter is a lost cause.

Update: Godot is being review-bombed

Fortunately the reactionary backlash seems to be having the opposite effect

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[–] Buttons@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I did not suggest banning any words.

To understand why I'm opposed to the word "woke", you must first acknowledge this fact:

Sometimes people have different definitions of the same word.

If you're willing to accept that, then it logically follows that using a word that people have different definitions of will cause more confusion than understanding. If our goal in speaking is to convey understanding, then that is best accomplished by avoiding words where people have conflicting definitions.

We've all learned that there are facts and opinions, but there is a third category: definitions.

If you watch for it, you will see that many disagreements boil down to nothing more than disagreeing about the definition of a single word. If we temporarily avoid using that word, suddenly we find ourselves in agreement, or at least having a better understanding of each other.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is a pretty common challenge in philosophy with a very obvious solution:

Define the controversial word (or words) at the top. It’s done all the time in science articles or legal documents.

You can even compound it to point out it’s your version (like calling it Lefty-woke).

By avoiding it, imo, you let them win and “claim” the word, since in their worldview, everyone is now using it like them.

Having said that, this is just my approach, I think the issue with politics is that people assume everyone is using the same language. You got to affirm or confirm that first.

Also, ironically, I think we are talking about the same thing, just using different words lol.

[–] Buttons@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

I hear you. It's no good to just cede ownership of a word and allow others to define it however suits them. But... it's Twitter, getting into a good faith philosophical discussion about the definitions of words ain't going to happen, so in many cases it's better to just not bring up the controversial words at all. Guess there's pros and cons to each.