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OpenAI is now valued at $157 billion (arstechnica.com)
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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Even if you 1000 x your $10k I don’t think you’d have enough to short something valued at $157B, however inflated that valuation might be.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You can short something with $1. It's just not enough to affect the value itself. You also don't technically need any money at all, the point of a basic short is to profit off selling borrowed stock after all.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago

Fair point. I, perhaps wrongly, assumed OP wanted to short them out of existence and not just profit from shorting them.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You definitely do need money. No broker is going to let you short without collateral, and you're going to be paying interest for the duration of your short position beside any fees/commission.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's fair, but let's not pretend there aren't brokers that just run a credit check below a certain amount and leave it at that.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Maybe if you have a super low cap, high fees, and they automatically close your position at a pretty conservative point. But that'd hardly be worth any broker's time with that risk/reward, unless they are hosing the borrower with insane fees. Though if that's the case, putting up collateral would be cheaper (even if you have to borrow it from somewhere).

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can short something without forcing a short squeeze...

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

And one for you