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[–] CybertoothTiger@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not contradicting, trying to learn here. How is it a feature of capitalism, and not fascism? Or are the two similar enough they can effectively be put in the same group?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fascism is Capitalism in decline. They aren't distinct systems, but the same one meshed.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh .. capitalism is an economic model, fascism is political. One may enable or encourage the other, but I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to say they are the same.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What causes fascism to rise or fall? Whose interests does it serve? The economy is political, politics are economic in nature, you cannot divorce the two.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's like saying that since you never see deer ticks except with deer, they are the same animal as the deer. Just because things commonly appear together does not mean they are the same.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it isn't. The economy forms the Base, while politics forms the Superstructure. You cannot have one without the other, and they are tangled.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing that picture of two different things in your attempt to argue that they are one thing.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They aren't the same, but are never found without each other.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That... Is a completely different argument.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They aren't distinct systems, but the same one meshed.

And

They aren't the same, but are never found without each other.

Are not equal statements.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Meshed, as in together form an overall system, 2 aspects of it.