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Nintendo has been actively taking down YouTube videos that feature its games being emulated or modded, which has sparked significant discussion and concern within the gaming community.

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[–] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If someone has bought a Switch game legally, then it's legal to dump that game to a PC and play it on a Switch emulator, right?

Sure you could say that very few people dump their own games, but those that do are doing everything legally I think?

[–] dan@upvote.au 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

it's legal to dump that game to a PC and play it on a Switch emulator, right?

Depends on where you live. Copyright law varies significantly from country to country.

In the USA, section 117 of the copyright act lets you create a copy for archival/backup purposes only. What I'm unsure about (and don't know if there's any relevant caselaw) is whether bypassing copy protection to create the copy violates the DMCA.

The equivalent Australian copyright law explicitly states that you can use the backup copy instead of the original one. The US law doesn't (all it says is that you can make an archival copy, not how you can use the archival copy), so it's a grey area.

Both laws are for "computer software", but you could easily argue that a video game is computer software.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't see any way you could argue a video game isn't computer software. It literally just is.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nintendo could try make up something like "it's not computer software since the Switch is a console, not a computer" or something like that. Not a great argument, but they have good lawyers and could probably convince a court that it's true.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But the game is running on a computer with the emulator which still strongly lends to it being software

I think I somewhat recall during the peak Wii U disaster era, during shareholder meetings Nintendo would call the games for the system "Software". So, that'd definitely backfire on them I'm sure

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure they would consider this "format shifting", which is not a valid exception to bypassing copy protection

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Nah. From Nintendo's position, you don't "own" the game. They do. All you bought is a license to play the game on a Nintendo approved console. By ripping the game from the switch dump, you are violating the license you bought by copying their software without permission.

From a practical perspective, fuckem. Your paid money to play the game and if you decide to play it on something else you own, go nuts.