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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think they mean that animals are not for us to use.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well it's too late for that, we already changed these animals to be unable to to live without us.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, stop breeding them. Solved.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sheep genocide! Woohoo!

Even if we stop, what do we do with the ones we still have? Sanctuaries for millions of animals are far too expensive.

How about we keep shearing them and let them graze under our solar?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can't, and I'm not recommending, get rid of sheep overnight. That's a scenario you made up on your own.

If you would castrate all domestic sheep today, that would be akin to what we do to cats and dogs. Slowly the population would dwindle.

[–] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People who kill and exploit animals every day are always so ready to defend animals. Raising animals for killing, even if you take their wool during their lives, is genocide.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Raising animals to harvest is cruel and unusual punishment but it isn't genocide. Genocide is the systematic and widespread extermination of a specific group. The fact that livestock animals outnumber us and their numbers are only growing should tell you we're not genociding them. Words have meaning.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

it's not punishment. we aren't assigning moral agency.