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[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 119 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 91 points 1 month ago

But he did have two sisters, which makes this post a lot weirder

[–] ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io 74 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah I was gonna say that. He was famously single his entire life and is speculated to be one of the first historical examples of an asexual and aromantic person.

[–] Ravi 88 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I can't be the only one that read "aromatic person" instead of "aromantic person".

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 75 points 1 month ago

He was born in the 17th century, everyone had quite the aroma back then

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 1 month ago
[–] nichtburningturtle 2 points 1 month ago

atleast you're not alone.

[–] Caesium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

oh damn that's sick if he was! pretty cool ace representation

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He's definitely not the first historical example. Artemis and Narcissus were aroace

[–] anarchist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not the same though, those are fictional characters. I know a real person made them, but still, it's not the same

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 month ago

They're not fictional, they're mythical. Here's the difference between reality, fiction, and myth: Fiction is made out of the rearranged parts of reality. Myth is made out of fiction that people thought was important. And reality is made out of myth that people took too literally.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Narcissus was not aroace, that's slapping modern ideals on what's literally an aesop about living up your own arse.

Hestia and Athena, definitely though. And Tesla.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Greeks didn't understand asexuality and thought it was hubris, since the only examples of ace people they did accept were literal gods. Narcissus was 16 when he died. A 16 year old who constantly gets sexually harassed has the right to be a little rude in rejecting people. Ameinias, for example, asked for the 16 year old's hand in marriage multiple times. If you want to say hounding a mid-pubescent child for sex is acceptable in any cultural context, then I'm going to view you the same way I view the ancient Greeks: as a pedophile.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Narcissus literally loved no one above himself. It wasn't asexuality it was hubris in the form of solipsism and narcissism - the reason why the condition is literally named after him.

And the Greeks cerainly DID understand asexuality, go and read Hippolytus.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

in Thespeia of Boeotia (a city not far from Helikon) a child was born, Narcissus, very handsome and dismissive of both Eros and lovers.

Can you explain in what bizarro universe this is not asexuality? And can you also please explain what Narcissus did that meant he deserved to die?

[–] ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

True, but I didn't say he was the first, I said "one of the first"

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I thought that was the joke here, isn't it? He stayed virgin due to this...?