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[–] sandbox@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You’re acting like releasing the WinAmp source code is like some sort of great gift to open source devs, lol. It’s a community that works based on a set of rules and expectations, if the company doesn’t want to meet those expectations, then an appropriate response is to bully them out of the space (or to bully them into meeting those expectations)

Projects are not entitled to be received gratefully and respectfully if you treat open source devs like a disposable source of free labour.

And the concept of “civility” in the face of corporations telling us what we can and can’t do, can well and truly get fucked.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You're missing the point. I don't really care about Winamp. It's ancient and probably used by about 15 grandpas. The point is the behavior of the people in the issues and pull requests. It's possible to be polite, but firm and bring a point across. Right now it looks like a pack of dogs barking around thinking they're witty and clever for doing so.

Projects are not entitled to be received gratefully and respectfully if you treat open source devs like a disposable source of free labour.

Nobody's forcing anybody to do anything. You're not forced to contribute in any way shape or form. Winamp hasn't hired anybody there to write code under bad conditions. Justifying bad behavior "because the other side is doing it" (which isn't true btw) is just weak.

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[–] sandbox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Right now it looks like a pack of dogs barking around thinking they're witty and clever for doing so.

Sure, but that’s pretty much any online community. We’re doing it right now. You did the exact same shit in your original comment where you called the GitHub commenters a bunch of children. We are the dogs in the mirror, if you want to change that culture, be the change.

Personally, I don’t think that being a smarmy prick in the comments of some corporation GitHub repo is “bad behavior”. It’s definitely not as bad as profiting from the exploitation of unpaid or underpaid labor, anyways.

When corporations destroy lives, it’s “just business”. But when people refuse to act civilly towards or about corporations, it’s “childish” and “immature”. In that case, I am very proud to be an immature child telling the adults that they’re brainwashed obedient drones complying with the will of then ruling elite.

[–] pbbananaman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t think you have a point. You’re shaming people in a community who don’t give a fuck about your concern trolling. Calling out shitty organizations for shitty behavior in the loudest way possible is often the only way to enact change. There’s a distinct power imbalance between companies that have money and resources versus individuals in the open source community. Polite and firm are useless unless you have additional leverage.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Enjoy being rude on github then 🤷 I'm sure your reasons for being mean are justified and help the image of the opensource community 👍

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[–] Maddier1993@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Clinging to absolute morality leads nowhere. You shouldn't punch down.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Be nice"

No I want to be an asshole because I think they are assholes

"That's not very nice"

don't punch down

Wat?

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