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The leader of a nonprofit representing the Haitian community of Springfield, Ohio, filed criminal charges Tuesday against former President Donald Trump and his running mate, JD Vance, over the chaos and threats experienced by the city since Trump first spread false claims about legal immigrants there during a presidential debate.

The Haitian Bridge Alliance invoked its private-citizen right to file the charges in the wake of inaction by the local prosecutor, said their attorney, Subodh Chandra of the Cleveland-based Chandra Law Firm.

“Their persistence and relentlessness, even in the face of the governor and the mayor saying this is false, that shows intent,” Chandra said. “It’s knowing, willful flouting of criminal law.”

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[–] Donut@leminal.space 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn't it be a slander case? As they are willfulling repeating lies, while showing that they know it's not true (JD saying they have to fabricate stories to get the media to listen)

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Unfortunately, time and time again the US Courts have found that Stochastic Terrorism is not illegal.

However, Trump has not done that, Trump has called them a violent existential threat, which seems like a more direct form of terrorism to me.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a civil matter, not a criminal one.

[–] Donut@leminal.space 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, I'm not versed in US laws. It's called a citizen criminal case, isn't that the same as civil? Or is that just unlucky phrasing for the uninformed like myself?

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Criminal and civil courts are separate and have different rules. Civil is for something like if your landlord rips you off, a contract isn't honored, or someone slanders you.

Criminal is like murder, fraud, etc. Not all criminal stuff is as serious as murder, but the burden of proof is higher and the penalties can be more severe (like jail time or even execution).