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[–] BlackDragon@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They’re literally all-powerful gods that reign over their own worlds

Kind of but not really. Their "worlds" are just their true bodies. They are all-powerful in the sense that you are all-powerful compared to the bacteria living in your gut, which is to say that they're not really. They have entirely finite power even within and over their own domains.

See: the Champion of Cyrodiil (in addition to teams of entirely normal people) invading Dagon's Oblivion gates and shutting them down. An all-powerful god would simply vaporize you the moment you tried to oppose him in his domain. Or forcibly convert you into a warrior of his armies. Or instantly transform all your bones into breadsticks and laugh as you cronched into a pile on the floor--but don't worry, he decided not to give you permission to die. Enjoy being a breadcrumb puddle.

that are quite possibly the same size as, if not bigger than Nirn.

Kind of a misunderstanding of the cosmology. Nirn is a finite round planet floating in (something equivalent to) space. The planes of Oblivion are infinite planes forced into the rough appearance of round planets by mortals whose minds can't comprehend infinity. They're not comparable to Nirn because they aren't even a similar type of cosmic structure, they only appear similar through the very limited eyes of mortals.

I don’t think we can apply our conventions of sex and biology to them lol.

This is definitely true though. I'm personally in the school of thought that Daedric Princes aren't really people the way that, for example, the Tribunal's components are, or for a real world example the way the Greek gods are. The Daedric Princes are concepts personified, or maybe even concepts forced into an anthropomorphic shape by uncomprehending mortal eyes, the same way the Planes of Oblivion will appear like finite round planets from afar.

Mehrunes Dagon isn't, I would argue, a guy who likes to destroy things. Mehrunes Dagon is destruction. He's not a bad guy because he's not a guy at all. Mehrunes Dagon enacts destruction and change the same way a hurricane does--not purposefully, not with malice, not even consciously in the same way a human can. Mehrunes Dagon simply, the same way you or I breathe, destroys.

That isn't to say that they are all the concept of their spheres. Hypothetically destroying Mehrunes Dagon wouldn't remove the concept of destruction from the universe. But Mehrunes Dagon is the being representing--made of, perhaps--that concept as it exists in the foundation of the universe.

The universe which I might add is a song, dreamt by the unimaginable and inconceivable higher-dimensional godhead. But that's a topic for nerds nerdier than I.

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago

Fair points! I was being somewhat hyperbolic. Compared to us, they are all-powerful, but, they are not in the grand scheme.

I couldn't remember if the planes were infinite or not. But I knew they were at least their own worlds under the Daedra's dominion.

One thing I do remember though is that Mehruns Dagon was actually created in Nirn by some of the Magna Ge before they peaced out. They created him because the Kalpa Nirn was in was being ruled over by an incredibly cruel and tyrannical race with no hope of change, so theh created the very embodiment of change, but realized too late they didn't "install any brakes" so to speak.

And his name is ~~John Cena~~ Mahruns Dagon. So you're right, he isn't evil, it's just in his nature to make things change. I don't remember how he finally ended up banished from Nirn, but that's why he believes Nirn is his by right, cause he was created there.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You sure have Fudged Muppets in the past

[–] BlackDragon@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No I'm just a nerd who reads a lot

I actually can't stand fudgemuppet, dude takes 40 mins to say what could (and should) be said in 5

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As an ES lore noob, I quite enjoyed their videos a few years back. I guess they could have shortened their videos a lot but explaining all the interconnectedness between characters and events and stuff I liked a lot.

Do you just read wikis or are there actually books to read about TES lore?

[–] BlackDragon@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While there are a couple of novels, I have not read them. I asked one of the guys responsible for the core worldbuilding about them once, and he said he couldn't get past the galley proofs so... not a high recommendation lmao

I learned from the source. The in-game texts. 99% of the lore you can find in the wikis is whatever random person's subjective interpretation of those in-game texts. It's better to read through them directly and come to your own conclusions.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Does that include ESO?