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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks, I had completely missed that ruling. Of course four years ago would not have been any better than today - it's the same SCOTUS.

Hopefully four years from now the situation will look different.

I still think this is a great possibility for the judiciary to step up, as I doubt federal legislators are going to touch this issue, and it seems pretty fundamental to me. Seems like it's not the most welcome discussion in this thread though!

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Good point, I think of the change in court composition as a very recent thing but time flies. It has been a few years at this point.

I hope you’re right that the lower courts will make more similar rulings but I suspect the Supreme Court might overturn it if they went too far. We’re just lucky Fort Collins ran out of money here.

Unfortunately, the court’s composition could take decades to change. It’s a big problem with no easy solution.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's impossible to tell. But time flies - with four new years a lot could happen. :)

(Or it could be reformed. One could dream)

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I don’t see any of the proposed reforms measurably improving things while the right has an equal or greater grip on power. Any reforms that are easily implemented are easily neutralized or turned against the left when republicans return to power. Which, in the current political system, is an inevitability.

More radical reforms could solve the problem but would require much greater political power. In my opinion this can only be achieved by forming a mass movement that completely overpowers the right’s institutional advantages. Whether this can or will happen remains to be seen but it won’t be easy.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

I guess fundamentally the problem is with the electoral system and politics - it's impossible to safeguard anything while knowing that a party like the GOP has a 50/50 chance of getting into power in four years.

I am not hopeful that electoral reform is on the horizon, but at least I think the GOP will collapse badly once their cult leader is dead and gone. :)